libera/##covid-19/ Thursday, 2023-08-24

BrainstormNew from Eric Topol on Mastodon: (news): The BA.2.86 variant differs markedly from XBB.1.5, the target of the "new" booster, and EG.5, the major current circulating variant that is an XBB derivative. From this genome map of the spike, you can readily see the differences at >30 positions! → https://mstdn.social/@erictopol/11094151158751928501:35
LjLyeah well too bad we don't have enough time to scrap out XBB vaccine plans and make new ones for BA.2.86 in time for the spike :(01:54
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome correlation with SARS-CoV-2 N genotypes → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/15zla2r/acquired_immune_deficiency_syndrome_correlation/02:04
BrainstormNew from BMJ Open: Implementing psychological support for health and social care staff affected by the COVID-19 pandemic: a qualitative exploration of staff well-being hubs ('Resilience Hubs) using normalisation process theory: Objectives Evaluate the implementation of Hubs providing access to psychological support for [... want %more?] → http://bmjopen.bmj.com/cgi/content/short/13/8/e07182602:53
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Lockdowns and face masks really did help to control covid-19 → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/15zm0kh/lockdowns_and_face_masks_really_did_help_to/03:23
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: COVID-19: examining the effectiveness of non-pharmaceutical interventions → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/15znegx/covid19_examining_the_effectiveness_of/03:34
BrainstormNew from Politico: Communications: Masks, lockdowns, social distancing: ‘Unequivocal’ evidence that measures reduced COVID-19 spread → https://www.politico.eu/article/masks-lockdowns-social-distancing-evidence-reduce-coronavirus-spread/06:34
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Remoteness didn’t protect Amazonian Tsimané from COVID-19 → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/15zt5fq/remoteness_didnt_protect_amazonian_tsimané_from/08:04
BrainstormNew from r/Science: science: Scientists traced the evolution of the coronavirus from the Wuhan variant to Omicron and found that most of the genomic mutations of SARS-CoV-2 occur due to processes in the guts and lungs. It is in these organs that the virus learns to evade the blocking [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/15zud0h/scientists_traced_the_evolution_of_the/09:44
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Lockdowns and face masks ‘unequivocally’ cut spread of Covid, report finds → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/15zvyw5/lockdowns_and_face_masks_unequivocally_cut_spread/10:54
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Scientists traced the evolution of the coronavirus from the Wuhan variant to Omicron and found that most of the genomic mutations of SARS-CoV-2 occur due to processes in the guts and lungs. It is in these organs that the virus learns to evade the blocking [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/15zwf4n/scientists_traced_the_evolution_of_the/11:04
BrainstormNew from BMJ: Polio vaccines: hope, hype, and history repeating?: In June 2023, a research article in Nature heralded new, “more stable” versions of the vaccines against two of the three types of poliovirus (types 1 and 3).1 “Super-engineered polio vaccines created to help end polio,” read a BBC headline.2 “Polio [... want %more?] → http://www.bmj.com/content/382/bmj.p1763.short11:45
Vyrusdammit, AJ Leonardi blocked me for asking him questions with challenging opinions11:59
Vyrusjust like topol11:59
VyrusI'm so done with how cowardly these people are, I politely try to begin a discussion around their findings, and they drop the ball at the first sign of a discussion12:00
Vyrusscientific theory has been DESTROYED by these people12:00
Vyrusall they care about is creating an echo chamber and fearporn12:01
Vyrusas soon as twitter removes the block feature we should surround these people with infinite attention12:02
Vyrusit's extremely suspicious - their attitude12:02
undefined_bobthats pretty rude, Vyrus12:03
Vyruswhich part ? I'm trying to be helpful - the people on twitter seem to like my posts, and I was very very polite - hoping for a nice discussion12:04
Vyrusbeing cut off is a little rude, don't you think12:04
undefined_bobif people on twitter like your posts, its most likely some conspiracy bullshit. And thats why the science people blocked you12:04
undefined_bobthere is no need to discuss with people who tries to spread bullshit12:05
Vyruswell if you asked about the content, it wasn't conspiracy at all12:05
VyrusI simply asked about his claims around epigenetics12:05
Vyruswhether it remained after 12 months12:05
Vyrusis this conspiracy bullshit ?12:05
undefined_bobpeople on twitter usually dont like scientific sound things12:05
Vyrushe seems to think covid's effects remain indefinitely, or its what he implies. I just said, according to the paper (I linked here earlier), it may not be correct12:06
Vyrusand BAM12:06
Vyrusthat's all there was to it, seriously12:06
Vyrus[22:01:30]  <undefined_bob> I like the sentence with the tin foil hat the most12:07
Vyrusin those discussions, paper suggests it is not clear12:07
Vyruswe do not know whether it's doom and boom12:08
Vyrusthis is what I was asking......12:08
Vyrusthose effects, partially remaining for 2-12 months is also concerning, but their persistence beyond 12 months is not confirmed either.12:10
VyrusThat was the question and the statement that got me blocked12:10
Vyrusit might also be because I also said stop spreading fear, before I said that lol12:11
undefined_bobafaik people with long covid do experience effects longer than 12 month and that is pretty much confirmed12:11
undefined_bobyeah because they dont spread fear12:11
Vyrusthey're inspiring caution lets say12:11
Vyrusok12:12
undefined_bobbasically they are just only sharing their scientific work?12:14
BrainstormNew from EMA: What's new: Document: Yellow fever vaccine (live) : List of nationally authorised medicinal products - PSUSA/00003135/202212 → https://www.ema.europa.eu/documents/psusa/yellow-fever-vaccine-live-list-nationally-authorised-medicinal-products-psusa/00003135/202212_en-0.pdf12:44
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): CoronavirusUK: Lockdowns and masks helped reduce transmission, expert group finds → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronavirusUK/comments/15zyfal/lockdowns_and_masks_helped_reduce_transmission/12:54
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Kentucky school district cancels classes less than two weeks into year due to Covid, flu and strep → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/15zzope/kentucky_school_district_cancels_classes_less/14:25
BrainstormNew from EMA: What's new: Medicine: Human medicines European public assessment report (EPAR): Veklury, remdesivir, COVID-19 virus infection, Date of authorisation: 03/07/2020, Revision: 21, Status: Authorised → https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/medicines/human/EPAR/veklury15:06
BrainstormNew from r/Science: science: Lockdowns and face masks ‘unequivocally’ cut spread of Covid, report finds → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/1603i98/lockdowns_and_face_masks_unequivocally_cut_spread/16:49
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): A Pilot Clinical Evaluation of Astepro  Nasal Spray for Management of Early SARS-CoV-2 Infection → http://classic.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT0600886017:29
BrainstormNew from LitCovid: (news): Examining How Young Adults Perceive, Understand, and Respond to SARS-CoV-2 Variants in Canada and France: Implications for Public Health Preparedness Efforts. → https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/3761511918:19
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): nCoV: First Covid deaths were fully vaccinated, Queensland Government records show | 24AUG23 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/1606o6q/first_covid_deaths_were_fully_vaccinated/18:29
LjLthis article may be in bad faith in my opinion. it seems to be ignoring the oft-cited (because it's true) fact that if 100% of the population is vaccinated, 100% of the deaths will be in vaccinated people.18:38
BrainstormNew from Eric Topol on Substack: A Quick Update on the BA.2.86 Variant: This hyper-mutated variant has shown up in many places now, at a time when wastewater and genomic surveillance is greatly diminished around the world. To date, the BA.2.86 variant has been detected in Israel, Denmark (3 individuals), [... want %more?] → https://erictopol.substack.com/p/a-quick-update-on-the-ba286-variant18:49
peetaurcherry pick anything and say whatever you want... make 10 studies and publish 1 to say whatever you want and call it "science"18:57
peetaurlike those people saying lockdowns are good ... cuz they lowered death from one cause, ignoring all the damage from every other cause18:58
BrainstormNew from Eric Topol on Mastodon: (news): A quick update on the BA.2.86 variant story → https://mstdn.social/@erictopol/11094561715058452618:59
LjLnot so quick an update, i suggest reading the post19:29
LjL"By the time the XBB.1.5 monovalent booster shot is ready in mid-September we may already be facing BA.2.86’s rise. We desperately need to pursue a variant-proof vaccine and there are over 50 candidate templates from broad neutralizing antibodies that academic labs have published over the last couple of years."19:29
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Americans at high risk advised to wear masks as new Covid variant detected | Coronavirus → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/16095gb/americans_at_high_risk_advised_to_wear_masks_as/21:19
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Is the Vaccine-Only Strategy Sustainable? → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/160cg5x/is_the_vaccineonly_strategy_sustainable/22:09

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