libera/##covid-19/ Monday, 2023-02-13

BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: The price Britain paid for lockdown was colossal. Was there an alternative? | → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/110uxuw/the_price_britain_paid_for_lockdown_was_colossal/01:47
LjL"lockdown"01:58
LjL"Britain is the one G7 country where activity is still to return to its pre-pandemic levels and on current trends it will be some time before it does. Growth has not exactly been stellar anywhere else in the developed world either but the UK’s performance has been especially poor."01:59
LjLwell Italy had a much stricter lockdown, is in G7, and is growing more than the UK...01:59
LjLso maybe lockdowns, especially loose ones, aren't the main thing to blame02:00
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Safety of COVID-19 Vaccines in Patients with Autoimmune Diseases, in Patients with Cardiac Issues, and in the Healthy Population → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/110ws1f/safety_of_covid19_vaccines_in_patients_with/03:23
ublxLjL: so if Italy had a stricter lock down and is now experience greater economic growth.. then lock downs improve future economic performance.. by.. reducing the proportion of the population taken out of work by long term illness?03:27
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: New COVID variant emerges → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/110x49e/new_covid_variant_emerges/03:32
LjLublx, or there's simply a stronger rebound because we had a stronger recession03:35
ublx"Britain’s flirtation with recession and a new era of austerity, alongside semi-permanent economic stagnation are the consequences of a policy response to the pandemic that was far-reaching in its scope and severity."03:35
ublxok03:35
LjLalthough i don't know if we were technically in recession either03:35
ublx"Given that the price paid for lockdown was colossal and is still rising ..."03:35
ublxclaimed, not demonstrated03:35
ublxoverall, i rate this article: gibberish03:35
LjLublx, the thing is, if the lockdowns had been done by a left-wing government, then it would be right-wing papers saying this stuff03:35
LjLi've seen this also with Greece03:36
LjLin Italy, the right wing was mad for deprivations of freedom03:36
LjLin Greece, the left wing was mad for the same reason, as the government was (is) right-wing03:36
LjL(in Italy it wasn't *quite* right-wing, not like now, anyway, IT'S COMPLICATED)03:36
ublxit's a ridiculous premise anyway. the british government machinated as much as possible to delay lock downs, and to cancel the lock downs as soon as possible, generally timing them appallingly. and the only thing swiss-cheese about british covid policy was the quality of those lock downs. and as almost everywhere, the manifest airborne predominance of transmission was denied an nauseum03:44
ublxthe author is ofc right that "policy response" and implementation was a failure, but after that he's just brain dumping the contents of his mind, correspondence with reality be damned03:45
BrainstormUpdates for Togo: +4 cases, +228 tests since 5 days ago04:01
BrainstormNew from r/Science: science: Extracts from two common wildflowers, tall goldenrod and eagle fern blocked SARS_CoV_2, the virus responsible for COVID-19, from entering human cells. The findings could provide a new avenue to develop pharmaceutical treatments for COVID-19. → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/110xjs9/extracts_from_two_common_wildflowers_tall/04:10
LjLublx, did you hear that John Hopkins (and also Covidly and who knows about OWID) are closing down shop04:19
ublxyes, saw.04:22
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Chronic viral coinfections differentially affect the likelihood of developing long COVID → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/1110bnh/chronic_viral_coinfections_differentially_affect/06:24
BrainstormUpdates for Saint Petersburg, Russia: +1409 cases, +7 deaths since 23 hours ago — Samara, Russia: +656 cases, +1 deaths since 23 hours ago — Connecticut, United States: +598 cases since 23 hours ago — Sverdlovsk, Russia: +388 cases since 23 hours ago07:01
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | February 13, 2023: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/1112vvf/daily_discussion_thread_february_13_2023/09:08
BrainstormNew from Science-Based Medicine: Vaccines and infant mortality rates: A false relationship promoted by the antivaxxers…again, 12 years later: Since COVID-19, in the antivax world everything old is new again. Even hoary [... want %more?] → https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/vaccines-and-infant-mortality-rates-a-false-relationship-promoted-by-the-anti-vaccine-movement-again-12-years-later/09:17
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Oral Lesions with immunohistochemical evidence of Sars-CoV-2 in swab-negative Post-COVID Syndrome → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/1113s7v/oral_lesions_with_immunohistochemical_evidence_of/10:05
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): As the authors argue, and I agree, this was a big misstep, one of the biggest, during the pandemic. Yet, I read this not as malice, but a tragic miscommunication about medical word definitions. Nevertheless, this needs to improve of course. → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/162505930532076748810:15
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Lingering COVID Cough That You Just Can’t Shake? You’re Not Alone: “If the cough lasts more than 2-3 weeks or is accompanied by shortness of breath, the person should be evaluated.” → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/11146o5/lingering_covid_cough_that_you_just_cant_shake/10:33
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: More on Myocarditis after BNT162b2 Vaccination in Israeli Adolescents → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/1114d4n/more_on_myocarditis_after_bnt162b2_vaccination_in/10:43
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Cardiovascular diseases worsen the maternal prognosis of COVID-19 → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/1115pxu/cardiovascular_diseases_worsen_the_maternal/12:11
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): nCoV: Global COVID Cases For 13FEB23 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/1116mkl/global_covid_cases_for_13feb23/13:09
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Profiles of COVID-19 vaccine hesitancy by race and ethnicity in eastern Pennsylvania → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/1116zhm/profiles_of_covid19_vaccine_hesitancy_by_race_and/13:28
BrainstormUpdates for Romania: +3200 cases, +31 deaths since 6 days ago13:59
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: Weekly Scientific Discussion Thread - February 13, 2023: This weekly thread is for scientific discussion pertaining to COVID-19. Please post questions about the science of this virus and disease here to collect them for others and clear up post space for [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/1117nnr/weekly_scientific_discussion_thread_february_13/14:06
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: D-dimer levels in non-COVID-19 ARDS and COVID-19 ARDS patients: A systematic review with meta-analysis → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/1118528/ddimer_levels_in_noncovid19_ards_and_covid19_ards/14:26
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Biotech: STAT+: In another pharma shakeup, Sanofi loses top executive known for overhauling R&D → https://www.statnews.com/2023/02/13/sanofi-john-reed/14:36
BrainstormNew from Contagion Live: Infrequent COVID-19 Co-Infections Are Frequently Treatment Resistant: Bacterial co-infections with COVID-19 are uncommon, but frequent use of antibiotics has fostered treatment resistance in co-occurring and secondary infections. → https://www.onclive.com/view/infrequent-covid-19-co-infections-are-frequently-treatment-resistant15:05
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Paxlovid should only be prescribed to those with COVID that are high risk of severe outcomes: study → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/11199fo/paxlovid_should_only_be_prescribed_to_those_with/15:25
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Pharma: STAT+: Pharmalittle: Sanofi R&D head unexpectedly steps down; U.K. tax rate criticized after AstraZeneca locates plant in Ireland → https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2023/02/13/sanofi-astrazeneca-uk-taxes-shkreli-gsk-abortion-sandoz-biosimilar/15:35
BrainstormNew from r/Science: science: A study in the US has found, compared to unvaccinated people, protection from the risk of dying from COVID during the six-month omicron wave for folks who had two doses of an mRNA vaccine was 42% for 40- to 59-year-olds; 27% for 60- to 79-year-olds; and [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/1119qf6/a_study_in_the_us_has_found_compared_to/15:54
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Ariel Karlinsky (@ArielKarlinsky): The relative excess deaths in Macao December 2022 (~300%) is one of the worst in #WorldMortality since the beginning of the pandemic (similar to Ecuador April 2020...)Does this give us any clue as to excess deaths in the rest of China? 1 [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/ArielKarlinsky/status/162515722859119411216:54
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): The pandemic provided an unprecedented incentive  in the US for hospital-at-home reimbursement by Medicare. Now what?erictopol.substack.com/p/the-hospital… pic.twitter.com/TmTbBo47YL → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/162516178937278464117:03
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: The Future of Long COVID: This emergency is not about to end. → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/111dic5/the_future_of_long_covid_this_emergency_is_not/17:42
BrainstormNew from Politico: New York Times sues EU over von der Leyen’s Pfizer texts: The messages could shed light on deals to buy billions of euros worth of COVID-19 vaccines. → https://www.politico.eu/article/new-york-times-sue-european-union-ursula-von-der-leyen-pfizer-texts/18:01
BrainstormUpdates for Saudi Arabia: +70 cases, +1 deaths since a day ago18:08
BrainstormUpdates for South Korea: +14371 cases, +11 deaths since 21 hours ago — Canada: +1147 cases, +64 deaths since 20 hours ago19:04
BrainstormUpdates for Israel: +559 cases, +4 deaths since 22 hours ago21:03
BrainstormUpdates for Samoa: +293 cases since 7 days ago — Montenegro: +99 cases, +1032 tests since a day ago — Kenya: +32 cases since 12 days ago23:07
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Long-term effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines against infections, hospitalisations, and mortality in adults: findings from a rapid living systematic evidence synthesis and meta-analysis up to December, 2022 → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/111lh9b/longterm_effectiveness_of_covid19_vaccines/23:13
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Physical interventions to interrupt or reduce the spread of respiratory viruses → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/111m2ne/physical_interventions_to_interrupt_or_reduce_the/23:32
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: California tops 12 million coronavirus cases as XBB.1.5 becomes dominant → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/111m65u/california_tops_12_million_coronavirus_cases_as/23:41

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