| LjL | gry, resignation | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| gry | from where | 00:02 |
| LjL | can't stop my parents from having a christmas reunion this time | 00:02 |
| gry | your current job? | 00:02 |
| gry | ah | 00:03 |
| gry | so you are going to be part of reunion, or go away somewhere else | 00:03 |
| LjL | i plan to try to make reasonably sure everyone gets tested | 00:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Even a mild case of COVID could wreck your gut's microbiome, new study finds → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/zoj2eb/even_a_mild_case_of_covid_could_wreck_your_guts/ | 00:17 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Algeria: +12 cases since 2 days ago | 01:02 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bolivia: +2581 cases, +4 deaths since a day ago | 02:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Impressed. Ordered 15 Dec; Received todayThanks @WHCOVIDResponse for getting these tests out again, and so rapidly twitter.com/EricTopol/stat… pic.twitter.com/RWTmeTHUhJ → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1604290552211550209 | 02:50 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Mexico: +14398 cases, +52 deaths since 2 days ago | 06:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from This Week In Virology: TWiV 965: Asking Esper Kallas for some I.D.: Brazilian infectious diseases physician Esper Kallas returns to TWiV to discuss the state of viral diseases in his country, including those cause by Zika, dengue, and yellow fever viruses, MPOX, and SARS-CoV-2. → https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-965/ | 06:21 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Tokyo, Japan: +17020 cases, +23 deaths since a day ago — Kanagawa, Japan: +10414 cases, +14 deaths since a day ago — Saitama, Japan: +9219 cases, +18 deaths since a day ago — Osaka, Japan: +9163 cases, +12 deaths since a day ago | 07:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: ‘World Health Organisation Doomed the World by Concealing Evidence of Airborne COVID Transmission’ → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/zosuck/world_health_organisation_doomed_the_world_by/ | 08:25 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Taiwan: +15122 cases, +30 deaths, +17926 tests since 23 hours ago | 09:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | December 18, 2022: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/zotdtg/daily_discussion_thread_december_18_2022/ | 09:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: COVID-19 and the forgone health benefits of elective operations → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/zov1bz/covid19_and_the_forgone_health_benefits_of/ | 10:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Penguinone (@penguinone): Influenza and SARS-COV-2 coinfections. It is not very frequent, but clearly best avoided. afludiary.blogspot.com/2022/12/mmwr-p… → https://twitter.com/penguinone/status/1604422815331016705 | 11:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Sustained reductions in life-threatening invasive bacterial diseases during the first two years of the COVID-19 pandemic: analyses of prospective surveillance data from 30 countries participating in the IRIS Consortium → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/zovyjc/sustained_reductions_in_lifethreatening_invasive/ | 11:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Hydroxyzine Use and Mortality in Patients Hospitalized for COVID-19: A Multicenter Observational Study → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/zowffg/hydroxyzine_use_and_mortality_in_patients/ | 12:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Mutations in SARS-CoV-2 structural proteins: a global analysis → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/zox294/mutations_in_sarscov2_structural_proteins_a/ | 13:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: (translated) Penguinone (@penguinone): Post-COVID-19, if people want to claim widespread and clinically significant immune dysfunction, they should do so in peer-reviewed journals. These claims require peer review by qualified immunologists and epidemiologists. → https://twitter.com/penguinone/status/1604456123867828224 | 13:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Reliability and validity of the Chinese version of the COVID-19 Phobia Scale → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/zoxw5v/reliability_and_validity_of_the_chinese_version/ | 13:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): And again; risk of serious heart disease is much higher after infection than after mRNA vaccination: twitter.com/penguinone/sta… → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/1604461877727305728 | 14:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: (translated) Penguinone (@penguinone): Progressive loss of conserved spike protein neutralizing antibody sites in Omicron sublineages is balanced by preserved T-cell recognition epitopesImmune "escape" from BQ.1.1 and XBB subvariants. Of course they don't get away, but:biorxiv.org/content/10.110… → https://twitter.com/penguinone/status/1604465167651045377 | 14:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: (translated) Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): Worrying that the bulk of COVID-19 victims are those segments of the population who need the extra booster, but many have not made it. This is based on clear scientific data!nytimes.com/interactive/20… pic.twitter.com/dy4CQX2bMd → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/1604468426898280450 | 14:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Predictors of severe COVID-19 among healthcare workers in Sabah, Malaysia → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/zoywz1/predictors_of_severe_covid19_among_healthcare/ | 14:46 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Hong Kong: +16023 cases, +40 deaths since 23 hours ago — Afghanistan: +94 cases, +1 deaths since 23 hours ago | 15:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Empty sealed extraction buffer sachets??: Has anyone else experienced this? I was about to do a test because I have a sore throat, and in the test kit ALL of the extraction buffer sachets are either completely empty or only have a tiny drop of liquid in [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronavirusUK/comments/zoz561/empty_sealed_extraction_buffer_sachets/ | 15:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): The US "senior wave" of Covid hospitalizations has already exceeded the summer BA.5 wave and may soon surpass the Delta wave. Most of these admissions could have been prevented with a booster shot. pic.twitter.com/plG8BngKxy → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1604552103959048192 | 20:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Link to graphnytimes.com/interactive/20…Link to 94% of people age 65+ had 2 shots and only 36% have had a recent boostercovid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra…Link to the new data on booster impact reduction of hospitalization age 65+erictopol.substack.com/p/a-quick-upda… → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1604552977531879424 | 20:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Michael Lin, MD PhD (@michaelzlin): We're used to the psychology of no good deed going unpunished, and people resisting coercion to do things that are good for them.But vaccines have a special hurdle: vax benefits are delayed and invisible, so they can only be trusted if data and [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/1604556407595888644 | 20:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Michael Lin, MD PhD (@michaelzlin): In the 1950s and 1960s, regard for scientific advancement and trust in officials was so high that getting children to line up for barely-tested vaccines was no problem. (We'd be horrified by the safety shortcuts taken then.)But trust in government [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/1604557640117338114 | 20:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Michael Lin, MD PhD (@michaelzlin): In addition, the FDA's opaque process for deciding vaccine and therapeutic EUAs, which has led to some baffling differences between companies in the speed of EUAs, has allowed suspicion to thrive about the quality of data and the extent of industry [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/1604563228272390144 | 20:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Michael Lin, MD PhD (@michaelzlin): Rather than stick to their prepandemic SOPs of only considering industry sponsor data, allowing sponsors to withhold unfavorable data, and not revealing what is holding up approval, FDA could have required more transparency from sponsors for EUA. → https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/1604565719823175680 | 21:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Michael Lin, MD PhD (@michaelzlin): In sum, CDC and FDA stuck to old habits of oversimplication and secrecy which have led to long-term loss of trust.Trust now needs to be repaired, or we will suffer in the next pandemic. CDC is taking steps to more transparency and nuance, but FDA [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/1604572517514952704 | 21:30 |
| LjL-Matrix | @room given many medical professionals use Twitter to exchange and propagate information, and this room reports from a few of them, I think it's important to know the following | 21:44 |
| LjL-Matrix | %print https://mobile.twitter.com/TwitterSupport/status/1604531261791522817 | 21:44 |
| Brainstorm | LjL-Matrix, It says: Twitter Support on Twitter: "We recognize that many of our users are active on other social media platforms. However, we will no longer allow free promotion of certain social media platforms on Twitter." / Twitter | 21:44 |
| LjL-Matrix | https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/social-platforms-policy | 21:44 |
| LjL-Matrix | What is a violation of this policy?... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/666aab62e321f5088ce31ea8c373de3f3c10cd7b>) | 21:45 |
| LjL-Matrix | Examples:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/4fbb426078a1b07c0ae991df2da5227732914532>) | 21:46 |
| LjL | Also https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603985491505795072 and thread | 22:14 |
| LjL | %print https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603985491505795072 | 22:14 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, It says: Elon Musk on Twitter: "Twitter will start incorporating mute & block signals from Blue Verified (not Legacy Blue) as downvotes" / Twitter | 22:14 |
| LjL | It will be even more impossible than ever before to be exposed to actual science on Twitter rather than paid shilling or whatever the "AI" wants to show you | 22:15 |
| LjL | I've seen all this happen before, in a smaller scale, though one that mattered more to me, when freenode died in the hands of Andrew Lee | 22:16 |
| LjL | Let's try our best to make the rich sociopaths not win | 22:16 |
| LjL | (No, I don't have a plan) | 22:16 |
| Tuvix | I think as long as the bot follows sane source material (the users posting) there's nothing really to do unless those users move their public stream of information elsewhere. It'd be nice if it was somewhat the bot had a ready-API for, but it's not like any of us have control over the forums actual experts elect to use. | 22:18 |
| Tuvix | The comments about the algorithm in general though would be good advice to anyone using Twitter (or frankly any modern social-media platform) to keep in mind. | 22:18 |
| LjL | Tuvix, a few of those users were already advertising alternative (usually Mastodon) account. Unfortunately but also predictably, I didn't do my due diligence in writing them down, and now I'm sure they've all removed them | 22:31 |
| LjL | but also, for about a month and a half, Brainstorm's Twitter-posting feature was broken, and nobody (me included) noticed | 22:32 |
| LjL | so it's likely not of extreme importance | 22:32 |
| LjL | for here, that is. unfortunately Twitter *is* a platform of extreme importance, like it or not, and I'm worried about what's unfolding | 22:32 |
| Tuvix | Historically the Internet has routed around censorship as a form of damage. The real open question as I see it is inertia, but that's not anything I can solve directly. | 22:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: White House's Covid coordinator urges people to get vaccinated ahead of holidays → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/zp7twu/white_houses_covid_coordinator_urges_people_to/ | 22:37 |
| LjL | Tuvix, i also see the question of many different directions and people having their favorite and not being ready to compromise on one just to stick together. for example i'm not a huge fan of Mastodon myself, i'm not even a huge fan of Matrix, but i'm on Matrix while i am really not looking forward to be active on Mastodon. even though my bot does post there. | 22:48 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Canada: +861 cases, +3 deaths since 23 hours ago | 23:02 |
| Tuvix | Right, and the problem with "big" platforms (Twitter, Facebook, Google) is that users moving away tend to go to another "big" platform. Freenode/Libera was an exception since 1) it's mostly made of tech-aware communities (whose users go where the community is,) and 2) it was a clear migration. | 23:26 |
| LjL | Tuvix, yeah a clear migration where the DB wasn't ("couldn't") be migrated and so it was a bit of a race to be the first to register stuff, which was unpleasant except for the many example of fairness shown by many users when doing that | 23:35 |
| LjL | migrations from Twitter may have a similar problem: how do I know who is who? Especially if they can't state it on Twitter. Which is obviously the reason why Mr. Musk is doing this. | 23:36 |
| ecks | the parallels to freenode and Andrew Lee are actually scary | 23:48 |
| gry | but they can | 23:49 |
| gry | 'hi all, i'm leaving twitter, find me in foobar@mastodon.fr' | 23:49 |
| spb | yes, which twitter will now remove | 23:52 |
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