| Brainstorm | Updates for Switzerland: +2 deaths (now 10625) since 9 hours ago | 00:11 |
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| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: ‘We are witnessing a crime against humanity’: Arundhati Roy on India’s Covid catastrophe | Coronavirus → https://is.gd/lk21Xi | 00:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Brazil on Thursday became the second country to officially top 400,000 COVID-19 deaths, losing another 100,000 lives in just one month, as some health experts warn there may be gruesome days ahead when the Southern Hemisphere enters winter → https://is.gd/4uXn16 | 00:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Rape victims in south Asia still face vaginal tests, report finds. The test involves a medical practitioner inserting two fingers into the vagina of a rape survivor in an attempt to determine if the hymen is broken, as well as to test laxity in the vagina. → https://is.gd/1qFKe3 | 00:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Pfizer begins exporting U.S. made COVID-19 shots abroad, starting with Mexico → https://is.gd/ndPeel | 01:32 |
| CoronaBot | /r/covid19: Moderna Announces Additional Investments to Increase Global Supply for COVID-19 Vaccine to up to 3 Billion Doses in 2022 (84 votes) | https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-announces-additional-investments-increase-global-supply/ | https://redd.it/n19oq1 | 01:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Flu Has Disappeared Worldwide during the COVID Pandemic → https://is.gd/WaGwb8 | 02:26 |
| LjL | %title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyXq88MrAVQ | 02:27 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: From www.youtube.com: Prima di continuare su YouTube | 02:27 |
| LjL | curse Google, but anyway it's a fundraiser video for India and explains the situation and stuff, from a doctor i follow on youtube | 02:29 |
| LjL | india is in a DIRE situation. worse i believe than anything we've seen so far with COVID yet. | 02:30 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Netherlands: +8314 cases (now 1.5 million), +19 deaths (now 17235) since 23 hours ago — United Kingdom: +2288 cases (now 4.4 million), +25 deaths (now 127618) since 23 hours ago — Canada: +9462 cases (now 1.2 million), +59 deaths (now 24165) since 23 hours ago | 02:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: ‘We are witnessing a crime against humanity’: Arundhati Roy on India’s Covid catastrophe → https://is.gd/jwGuPI | 03:27 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bermuda: +8 cases (now 2382), +3 deaths (now 27) since 23 hours ago | 03:37 |
| finely[m] | COVID profiteers latest lie: "there no excess vaccine manufacturing capacity. Waiving patents would not increase vaccine production" | 03:47 |
| finely[m] | Rebuttal: one firm in Bangladash alone could produce 600+ million doses a year | 03:47 |
| finely[m] | https://theintercept.com/2021/04/29/covid-vaccine-factory-production-ip/ | 03:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: ‘Cannon fodder’: India’s COVID-hit medical students feel betrayed | Junior doctors subjected to mammoth workloads, lack of pay, rampant exposure to virus and complete academic neglect. → https://is.gd/Tiwkqn | 03:47 |
| LjL | finely[m], on the one hand i've argued on reddit that countries can't just unilaterally waive patents because they belong to companies and i've show them a treaty about it. on the other hand, the EU has had no big qualms ignoring international law when actually granting people asylum was inconvenient, so i'm not really sure why we can't just *illegally* start producing vaccines anywhere with the capability | 03:49 |
| finely[m] | Great point. The penalties these IP treaties are so extreme though, and it really requires cooperation of companies transferring the knowledge of how to manufacture the vaccines (especially the new mRNA ones). | 03:57 |
| finely[m] | The were reports of nation state hacking if pharma early in the pandemic. I wonder if even a small group of conscientious objector insiders could leak enough info for others to successfully manufacture? | 03:57 |
| LjL | yes, i was looking at it purely from the point of view of "let's assume a ton of sites can just start producing vaccines based on what's public in the patents". when things are *secret* or just complicated without insider knowledge, cooperation becomes essential. at the same time, Pfizer and Moderna have already "threatened" (actually, cheered about to investors) to hike the prices once they decide the initial vaccination phase is over. do we want to be | 03:59 |
| LjL | hostage of these companies for the coming decades, or do we want to draw a plan to avoid that? | 03:59 |
| finely[m] | Bring out the guillotines🙂 | 04:01 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +470556 cases (now 18.5 million) since 23 hours ago | 04:02 |
| Jigsy | >B1617, first detected in India, is a “variant under investigation” in the UK that has raised concerns because it contains two “escape” mutations that may help it to evade the body’s immune responses. | 04:03 |
| Jigsy | Oh... goody... | 04:03 |
| Jigsy | Lockdown round four, eh. | 04:03 |
| oxek | we haven't had a real lockdown yet | 04:04 |
| oxek | once those in charge actually decide to fix covid, it will be gone in 14-30 days. Just like that. | 04:05 |
| Jigsy | %cases UK | 04:05 |
| Brainstorm | Jigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 4.4 million confirmed cases (6.7% of the population) and 127624 deaths (2.9% of cases) as of 3 minutes ago. 155.1 million tests were performed (2.9% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data. | 04:05 |
| finely[m] | <oxek "once those in charge actually de"> I don't think so, this virus is a real bitch to control. The tools are there to use though. | 04:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from Virological.org: Latest posts: Spread of endemic SARS-CoV-2 lineages in Russia: Introduction Continuing evolution of SARS-CoV-2 in humans leads to emergence of new variants with novel epidemiological and/or antigenic properties. In spring 2020, the S:D614G change has spread globally due to its fitness advantage1,2. Subsequently, a number of [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/953n3u | 04:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Brazil tops 400,000 Covid-19 deaths amid fears of renewed surge → https://is.gd/PgsX9b | 04:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: As India's crematoriums overflow with Covid victims, pyres burn through the night → https://is.gd/Bw1McL | 05:10 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Cameroon: +6252 cases (now 72250), +116 deaths (now 1107) since 6 days ago | 05:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: Cardiac problems found in recovered Covid patients of middle age group: Doctors → https://is.gd/znlBg4 | 05:51 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Belgium: +3663 cases (now 986622), +45 deaths (now 24185) since 22 hours ago | 06:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: (news): Covid deaths: More than 20m living in areas with zero Covid deaths → https://is.gd/4JH4uo | 06:31 |
| CoronaBot | /r/coronavirus: Flu Has Disappeared Worldwide during the COVID Pandemic (10039 votes) | https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/flu-has-disappeared-worldwide-during-the-covid-pandemic/ | https://redd.it/n16f75 | 06:43 |
| oxek | what a surprise, who would have thought so... | 07:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: New Zealanders face mental health, economic challenges in pandemic recovery → https://is.gd/RSeqIe | 07:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: COVID-19 Is Devastating India. Its Government Is Trying To Censor Social Media. → https://is.gd/LY3hF0 | 07:32 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba, Netherlands: +1360 cases (now 1556), +12 deaths (now 15) since 3 months ago — France: +19037 cases (now 5.6 million), +307 deaths (now 104305) since 10 hours ago — Germany: +33822 cases (now 3.4 million) since 14 hours ago — Lombardy, Italy: +2306 cases (now 802406), +40 deaths (now 32829) since a day ago | 07:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Life-style: ‘How to control your woman’ googled 165 million times amid pandemic, reveals study → https://is.gd/AZi6n2 | 08:02 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +512905 cases (now 18.8 million), +3498 deaths (now 208330) since 21 hours ago | 08:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: The Indian Government Is Silencing Critics Even As Its COVID-19 Crisis Surges → https://is.gd/pmWu5I | 08:43 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Thailand: +1583 cases (now 65153), +15 deaths (now 203) since 21 hours ago | 09:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | April 30, 2021: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://is.gd/lwu4cK | 09:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: US hopes its COVID-19 assistance has catalytic effect on countries to come to India’s aid → https://is.gd/H0LEBW | 09:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Austria courts face fallout from ski resorts' virus spread: The last time Sieglinde Schopf hugged Hannes, her husband of almost 50 years, was before he boarded a train to go skiing in Austria's popular Alpine province of Tyrol last March. → https://is.gd/pUmANA | 10:14 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Laos: +85 cases (now 757) since 19 hours ago — Lakshadweep, India: +158 cases (now 2662), +3 deaths (now 4) since 2 hours ago | 10:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Virologist Angela Rasmussen on the controversy surrounding Russia’s Sputnik V Covid-19 vaccine: STAT chats with virologist Angela Rasmussen about the concerns regulators have raised about Russia's Covid-19 vaccine and what the global implications may be. → https://is.gd/9OhvOB | 10:55 |
| oxek | is there a place online where I could see all these posts that Brainstorm is making? | 11:12 |
| oxek | without having to be here on irc | 11:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from ProPublica: Counties at Highest Risk for COVID Harm Often Have Lowest Vaccination Rates: by Ryan Gabrielson ProPublica is a nonprofit newsroom that investigates abuses of power. Sign up to receive our biggest stories as soon as they’re published. As the U.S. rushes to vaccinate its population against the coronavirus, most counties with the [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/0uRUWR | 11:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: Medicine: Human medicines European public assessment report (EPAR): Shingrix, herpes zoster vaccine (recombinant, adjuvanted), Herpes Zoster, Date of authorisation: 21/03/2018, Revision: 6, Status: Authorised → https://is.gd/YfN8Z2 | 11:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: Europe’s economic recovery: Europe’s economy hit by coronavirus restrictions in early 2021 → https://is.gd/0WkAve | 12:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Destination of the week: Disneyland opening highlights California’s COVID turnaround → https://is.gd/h2RLaG | 13:19 |
| Brainstorm | New from Scientific American: Health: COVID Innovations: Vaccines for Variants, Drone Deliveries, Print-Your-Own Shots, and More → https://is.gd/18Qtn9 | 14:10 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Switzerland: +1831 cases (now 659974), +5 deaths (now 10630) since 14 hours ago | 14:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: COVID-19: Everything you need to know about Remdesivir and its usage → https://is.gd/h83gPf | 15:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Increasing vaccine uptake among ethnic minorities: We have been struck by how COVID-19 has affected the health and wellbeing of ethnic minority groups disproportionately. Individuals from these communities are more likely to have severe disease requiring intensive care admission and sadly succumb to infection than those from a [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/8SM4sJ | 15:11 |
| CoronaBot | /r/covid19: Associations between body-mass index and COVID-19 severity in 6·9 million people in England: a prospective, community-based, cohort study (80 votes) | https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(21)00089-9/fulltext | https://redd.it/n1oydq | 15:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: The Pacific went a year without COVID—but now, it's all under threat: For most of the last year, the Pacific Islands have been remarkably isolated from the devastating effects of the COVID crisis. By walling themselves off early from the outside world, most Pacific nations remain completely COVID free. → https://is.gd/Yb89xw | 15:22 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Netherlands: +27 deaths (now 17249) since 23 hours ago | 16:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Covid-19: Most people admitted to hospital after vaccination were infected before immunity could develop, research shows: The majority of vaccinated people who were admitted to hospital for covid-19 were probably infected shortly before or around the time of their vaccination, highlighting the importance of maintaining... → https://is.gd/2QC5NT | 16:34 |
| pwr22 | <oxek "without having to be here on irc"> They persist on the matrix side | 16:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: The novel coronavirus' spike protein plays additional key role in illness: Scientists have known for a while that SARS-CoV-2's distinctive "spike" proteins help the virus infect its host by latching on to healthy cells. Now, a major new study shows that they also play a key role in the disease itself. → https://is.gd/xGvetE | 16:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: China hits Trump for making Americans pay "high price" in COVID-19 pandemic → https://is.gd/F54aff | 17:06 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +39479 cases (now 3.4 million) since 23 hours ago | 17:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: France faces possible coronavirus vaccine glut: Several towns in France have started breaking government guidelines in order to keep up the pace of coronavirus vaccinations. → https://is.gd/UHtymj | 17:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Superinfection and Hyperinflammatory Phenotype in COVID-19 (Coronavirus Disease 2019) Pneumonia Patients → https://is.gd/87WcpR | 17:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Breath Analysis of Patients Diagnosed With COVID-19 Using Infrared Spectroscopy → https://is.gd/i28G8u | 17:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from NPR: Return For Mickey, Stay For The Churros: Disneyland Reopens After 13 Months: "I can't wait to just be there and feel it and listen to the music and smell the churros," says Robert Laird, a Disney megafan. → https://is.gd/HwupE8 | 18:08 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Canada: +8254 cases (now 1.2 million) since 23 hours ago | 18:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Doctors left to comfort dying Covid patients in India as they feel 'helpless' | ITV News → https://is.gd/gyXyat | 18:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: 100 million people fully vaccinated against COVID-19 in US: official: One hundred million people in the United States are now fully vaccinated against COVID-19, White House pandemic response coordinator Jeff Zients said Friday. → https://is.gd/mdvtrz | 19:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Pharma: STAT+: Brazilian senate votes to suspend patents in bid to widen access to Covid-19 vaccines → https://is.gd/EKw7Eh | 19:20 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Italy: +13445 cases (now 4.0 million), +263 deaths (now 120807) since a day ago | 19:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Canada to start to get Pfizer vaccines from the US next week: Canada will start getting Pfizer COVID-19 vaccines from the United States next week, a company spokesperson said Friday, in what will be the first time the U.S. has allowed that company's vaccine exported to Canada. → https://is.gd/CIgN7b | 19:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: COVID-19 pill could be available later this year: Pfizer CEO: (HealthDay)—A pill to treat COVID-19 is being developed by Pfizer and could be available by the end of the year, company CEO Albert Bourla says. → https://is.gd/QR0Rxi | 19:52 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Concorso a 4 posti di Consigliere di Stato 2020 ( https://www.governo.it/it/articolo/concorso-4-posti-di-consigliere-di-stato-2020/16764 ) | 19:59 | |
| CoronaBot | /r/coronavirus: 100 U.S. Colleges Will Require Vaccinations for Fall Enrollment (10033 votes) | https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/29/us/colleges-vaccinations-enrollment.html | https://redd.it/n1r3b2 | 20:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: r/Coronavirus is looking for new moderators!: r/Coronavirus is looking for new moderators to join our team. As the pandemic transitions into its next phases, we're looking for moderators who are willing to help us enforce the rules and keep discussion civil. We are open to moderators from all over the world! → https://is.gd/THACrv | 20:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from New Scientist: Covid-19 news: Prior infection boosts response to single Pfizer jab: The latest coronavirus news updated every day including coronavirus cases, the latest news, features and interviews from New Scientist and essential information about the covid-19 pandemic → https://is.gd/xjsvwU | 20:46 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Spain: +9135 cases (now 3.5 million), +136 deaths (now 78216) since a day ago — Switzerland: +7 deaths (now 10632) since 20 hours ago | 20:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: U.S. to restrict travel from Covid-ravaged India → https://is.gd/n3Gsvi | 20:46 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Progetto «Bellezz@-Recuperiamo i luoghi culturali dimenticati», il Dpcm 11 febbraio 2021”. ( https://www.governo.it/it/articolo/progetto-bellezz-recuperiamo-i-luoghi-culturali-dimenticati-il-dpcm-11-febbraio-2021/16765 ) | 20:49 | |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: Are You Ready for a Post-COVID Dating Tsunami?: Many singles are emerging from the pandemic equal parts eager and reluctant -- craving intimacy more than ever but feeling woefully out of practice. → https://is.gd/8Z2LVt | 20:52 |
| de-facto | .title https://investors.biontech.de/news-releases/news-release-details/pfizer-and-biontech-submit-request-expand-conditional-marketing | 20:53 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From investors.biontech.de: Pfizer and BioNTech Submit Request to Expand Conditional Marketing Authorization of COMIRNATY® in the EU to Adolescents | BioNTech | 20:53 |
| Arsanerit | At my sisters workplace, in a hospital, they vaccinated everyone in her team with the Janssen vaccine yesterday, and today five out of eight are home sick. It seems they could have planned that better. | 21:08 |
| LjL | maybe they shouldn't have done all on the same day ;( | 21:09 |
| LjL | AZ also seems pretty heavy on the younger | 21:09 |
| Arsanerit | Indeed they shouldn't. | 21:09 |
| LjL | i don't mean the scary clots, just the regular side effects | 21:09 |
| Arsanerit | Yes, her colleagues are mostly young or mid-age women who are rarely sick. She's not feeling great herself but still OK enough to work. | 21:09 |
| de-facto | well we talked here about that the phase 1/2 showed quite strong reactogenicity when it was published | 21:09 |
| Arsanerit | My parents felt nothing at all from the BioNTech vaccine. | 21:10 |
| de-facto | mine too, they only said they had a bit of a sore arm at injection site, but they are in their 70s | 21:11 |
| Arsanerit | I applied for a vaccine appointment this week. | 21:11 |
| de-facto | BNT? | 21:11 |
| Arsanerit | Unknown to me until appointment is confirmed. | 21:11 |
| Arsanerit | But given the circumstances it's very likely to be Comirnaty (BioNTech) or the Moderna vaccine. | 21:12 |
| LjL | de-facto, we did but with AZ it didn't seem so bad, officially BNT lists stronger side effects, but i hear second and third hand that all the people less than 50 or so who're getting AZ are feeling quite sick, usually just for a day | 21:12 |
| de-facto | nice, i wish i could apply too | 21:12 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for France: +376 deaths (now 104374) since 23 hours ago | 21:12 |
| LjL | i really hope whenever my window opens to get vaccinated, Pfizer is what's around | 21:13 |
| LjL | although i would have hoped my parents got it too, but instead they went one week too soon :( | 21:13 |
| Arsanerit | I'm surprised that I can (Impfscham), but my employer (German weather service DWD) is officially "critical infrastructure" and has decided that all employees are critical (the former is probably true, the latter is very debatable, but I won't complain). | 21:13 |
| de-facto | yes i heard that from people in their 30s about AZ too, they all had to take some meds against side effects | 21:13 |
| LjL | my sister also felt a bit sick after the second BNT dose, but i think not *that* sick, and also not at all with the first | 21:14 |
| de-facto | i wonder, have there ever been investigations about how the mRNA particles impact liver after vaccinations? | 21:15 |
| de-facto | it probably would filter out all the free floating LNPs | 21:16 |
| de-facto | and which cells are the ones with ApoE receptors that the LNPs injects the mRNA into? | 21:17 |
| de-facto | .title https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/01/21/mrna-vaccines-what-happens | 21:19 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From blogs.sciencemag.org: mRNA Vaccines: What Happens | In the Pipeline | 21:19 |
| de-facto | .title https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsnano.0c10064 | 21:20 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From pubs.acs.org: Apolipoprotein E Binding Drives Structural and Compositional Rearrangement of mRNA-Containing Lipid Nanoparticles | ACS Nano | 21:20 |
| de-facto | Lowe "Both the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines are being given i.m., so if you’d like to know what parts of your body are producing the coronavirus Spike protein antigen, the answer seems to be the muscle tissue at the site of injection, the lymphatic tissue downstream in your armpit on that side, your spleen, and (for the first day or two) your liver. The bulk of the Spike that you’re going to make is probably made in the fi | 21:24 |
| de-facto | rst two or three days, anyway, from what we can see from the animal models." | 21:24 |
| LjL | de-facto, i was told that lymph nodes can stay enlarged for quite a while sometimes after getting BNT | 21:27 |
| de-facto | yes they probably still are processing it for quite some time | 21:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: News Scan for Apr 30, 2021: Maternal COVID and infant outcomes Nasopharyngeal swab complications Flu vaccine nudges Polio in 9 countries → https://is.gd/25Ltn5 | 22:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from ScienceNews: NASA’s Ingenuity helicopter’s mission with Perseverance has been extended: NASA’s Ingenuity helicopter has passed all its tests and is ready to support the Perseverance rover in looking for ancient Martian life. → https://is.gd/L7xJA4 | 22:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from Gazzetta Ufficiale italiana: MINISTERO DELLA SALUTE - ORDINANZA 30 aprile 2021: Ulteriori misure urgenti in materia di contenimento e gestionedell'emergenza epidemiologica da COVID-19 nella Regione Valled'Aosta. (21A02666) → https://is.gd/Tq4R95 | 22:54 |
| ryouma | there are so many cognats that that italian looks like corrupted english | 23:03 |
| ryouma | e* | 23:03 |
| rpifan | well | 23:03 |
| rpifan | you can blame french for that | 23:03 |
| ryouma | are you saying french influence italian? | 23:03 |
| ryouma | oh that english has french | 23:04 |
| ryouma | yes | 23:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from FDA Press Releases: FDA: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: April 30, 2021 → https://is.gd/lNS57Z | 23:04 |
| ryouma | it's almost like you don't need a translator when you try to get the gist but then yuou go over to japnese and google translate has abvsolutely no clue what to do to translate | 23:04 |
| ryouma | idk about hte swabs in question, buyt my nasopharyngeal swab years ago caused nasopharynx issues tha persis. but ithad like hooks on it to take a sample. it was not a soft cotton swab. | 23:21 |
| DGMurdockIII | hey all | 23:22 |
| DGMurdockIII | qustion | 23:22 |
| DGMurdockIII | sorry to ask this but is there anyone that would be willing to help me with a littel money via paypal so i could pay my rent i had a emergency now im short for the first time in 2 years it not much that i need | 23:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Narendra Modi is guilty of Mass Negligent Manslaughter in India. Responsibility for India's 200,000 COVID deaths (and rising) rests with Prime Minister Modi and his arrogant, hypocritical, incompetent government, which even now prioritizes subduing legitimate criticism over saving lives → https://is.gd/wGPeRn | 23:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: US keeps in place mask requirement on planes, transit: A requirement that people on planes and other forms of transportation in the U.S. wear masks to prevent the spread of COVID-19 will remain in place through at least Sept. 13, the Transportation Security Administration said Friday. → https://is.gd/tqeZo7 | 23:45 |
| rpifan | good | 23:50 |
| rpifan | ryouma, well the norman french invaded england | 23:50 |
| rpifan | so we got english | 23:50 |
| rpifan | but french and italian are two of the most similar latinate languages | 23:50 |
| rpifan | but it also happens that spanish influenced italian, so i can read italian fairly easily | 23:51 |
| LjL | i'd say to an italian spanish seems a lot more similar | 23:51 |
| LjL | but the vocabulary is closer with french | 23:51 |
| LjL | just unintelligible | 23:51 |
| LjL | spanish didn't influence italian so much, except in the south | 23:52 |
| LjL | standard italian is based on tuscan, it's relatively its own thing | 23:52 |
| rpifan | well for a long time spain owned italy | 23:52 |
| rpifan | remember the kingdom thing | 23:53 |
| LjL | just spanish and italian sound a lot more similar to each other than french does because french likely had a substrate of... lots of strange stuff that sounded strange | 23:53 |
| LjL | rpifan, that was in the south | 23:53 |
| rpifan | well french is basically german | 23:53 |
| rpifan | i thought it was the north that spain owned | 23:53 |
| rpifan | i knew that standard italian is based on dantes shit | 23:53 |
| LjL | well, they owned lombardy for a short time | 23:53 |
| LjL | italy has been owned by pretty much everyone | 23:53 |
| LjL | we're europe's slut | 23:53 |
| rpifan | but yea italian is a really strange language to my spanish ears | 23:54 |
| rpifan | its almost like with a bit of effort we could comunicate and sometimes we can | 23:54 |
| rpifan | but i found the ppl in italy wanted to speak english instead of spanish | 23:54 |
| LjL | yeah it's not *that* easy... if you learn the basics then you start being able to communicate, but without those it sounds just enough out of reach that if you both know english, it's kinda preferable | 23:55 |
| LjL | sabes lo que ... here's an example, i want to say "you know what i mean", in italian that would be said as "you know what i want to say" (sai cosa voglio dire), which i can translate literally into spanish as "sabes lo que quiero decir", which may be perfectly fine, but also it may not, because i don't know per se if "want to say" is idiomatic for "mean" in spanish the same as in italian | 23:56 |
| LjL | so sometimes you are unsure whether to say things even though it later turns out they would have been fine (but then other times you think things are fine and they aren't) | 23:56 |
| rpifan | sales lo que quiero decir is perfect spanish | 23:56 |
| rpifan | but here is a good example | 23:57 |
| rpifan | cosa doenst really mean cosa in spanish | 23:57 |
| rpifan | it can be the meaning in italian is broader | 23:57 |
| LjL | cosa can be "thing" in italian but also "what" | 23:57 |
| LjL | i know in spanish the latter is only "qué" | 23:57 |
| LjL | maybe "que cosa" can be said though? i imagine it's rare... in italian "che cosa" for what is perhaps more common than either "che" or "cosa" | 23:58 |
| rpifan | my favorite italian expression | 23:58 |
| rpifan | ma que cosa fai | 23:58 |
| LjL | heh | 23:58 |
| LjL | the initial "ma" is also something you can't translate directly into spanish | 23:58 |
| LjL | and spanish has "ya" which in turn is weird to translate | 23:58 |
| rpifan | actually was at a party in berlin and heard italians and i just said ma que cosa fai and then they started speaking to me | 23:58 |
| rpifan | i was like noo | 23:58 |
| rpifan | we do use que cosa but it means two things, one is literally what thing is that that yo uwant | 23:59 |
| rpifan | but the other is like, oh well thats how it goes | 23:59 |
| LjL | oh | 23:59 |
| LjL | i didn't know that | 23:59 |
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