adventurer | hi josechullec | 00:03 |
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adventurer | how are things in Chile now | 00:03 |
josechullec | how are you? Greetings to Australia! | 00:03 |
adventurer | Thanks | 00:03 |
adventurer | I am good thanks I meant | 00:04 |
adventurer | well...i am ok | 00:04 |
josechullec | 90,638 total in chile | 00:04 |
josechullec | +4654 | 00:05 |
adventurer | yeah I keep hearing on the radio about Chile lately | 00:05 |
adventurer | or South America in general | 00:05 |
josechullec | Today I had to go to Castro, the city closest to my home. Many people in the streets and commerce. I practically didn't get out of the car! | 00:06 |
adventurer | Do you have a mask...but yes probably better to not even get out of the car/home is possible | 00:08 |
adventurer | I hope they can stop it spreading | 00:09 |
josechullec | I wanted to go to the supermarket, but it was impossible | 00:09 |
adventurer | not good...do you have enough food to get by? | 00:16 |
adventurer | Sounds no good. I hope you will be ok | 00:16 |
josechullec | Yes, at least there is no shortage in Chiloé. But if many sanitary controls. | 00:17 |
ryouma | in normal times, celebrities dying make a difference to many lives who looked up to them. shouldn't that be occurring now? consider ronald reagan. he had nasal polyps. those became well known. | 00:34 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Colombia: +1322 cases (now 26688), +20 deaths (now 853) since 19 hours ago — Brazil: +15087 cases (now 465166), +602 deaths (now 27878) since 2 hours ago — Colorado, US: +492 cases (now 25613), +15 deaths (now 1436) since 23 hours ago — Arkansas, US: +239 cases (now 6777), +7 deaths (now 132) since a day ago | 00:37 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Peru: +6506 cases (now 148285), +131 deaths (now 4230) since a day ago — Gabon: +182 cases (now 2613), +1 deaths (now 15) since a day ago — California, US: +1930 cases (now 106350), +65 deaths (now 4136) since an hour ago — US: +2089 cases (now 1.8 million), +73 deaths (now 104490) since 18 minutes ago | 00:52 |
_abc_ | Countries which opened schools now see rapid infection growth from there. Israel was one. | 00:58 |
_abc_ | This is a pretty shitty situation. Feral youth do not respect lockdown anyway as is. Flitting around to visit girlfriends and in general flouting all mask rules. I see it here in the house all the time. | 00:59 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Central African Rep.: +119 cases (now 874) since a day ago — Malawi: +70 cases (now 273) since a day ago — Nebraska, US: +393 cases (now 13654), +6 deaths (now 170) since a day ago — Argentina: +717 cases (now 15419), +10 deaths (now 520) since 10 hours ago | 01:38 |
ryouma | feral youth in your house? | 01:52 |
pyna | 30-50 feral youth | 01:53 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Venezuela: +43 cases (now 1370), +3 deaths (now 14) since 8 hours ago — Panama: +400 cases (now 12531), +6 deaths (now 326) since a day ago — Brazil: +2138 cases (now 468338), +21 deaths (now 27944) since an hour ago — New Hampshire, US: +106 cases (now 4492), +6 deaths (now 238) since a day ago | 03:23 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Guatemala: +259 cases (now 4607), +10 deaths (now 90) since a day ago — Mexico: +3227 cases (now 84627), +371 deaths (now 9415) since a day ago — World: +3532 cases (now 6.0 million), +381 deaths (now 366964) since 23 minutes ago — Somaliland: +8 cases (now 225) since 3 days ago | 03:38 |
ashianju[m] | Corona Virus Bill tabled in Jan 2019 - OVER 1 YEAR AGO! https://brandnewtube.com/watch/corona-virus-bill-tabled-in-jan-2019-over-1-year-ago_AFd3ocORJnQX3np.html | 04:22 |
Jigsy | %cases UK | 04:28 |
Brainstorm | Jigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 271222 confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 38161 deaths (14.1% of cases) as of 9 hours ago. 5.4 million tests were performed (5.0% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data. | 04:28 |
LjL | ashianju[m], do you think he'll stop saying the same things over and over and eventually get to the part where SURPRISE he tells me the bill was tabled in 2019? | 04:30 |
ashianju[m] | He might have not been aware this has been worked on for a year already, he should have been | 04:33 |
LjL | ashianju[m], it had a different name https://web.archive.org/web/20200229020959/https://projects.propublica.org/represent/bills/116/hr748 | 04:34 |
LjL | it looks like he simply "reused" a bill for a diffeerent purpose | 04:34 |
LjL | there was no "coronavirus bill" | 04:34 |
LjL | not before there was | 04:34 |
LjL | the same page *in april* has changed the bill's name (and presumably some contents) to CARES act https://web.archive.org/web/20200420211048/https://projects.propublica.org/represent/bills/116/hr748 | 04:35 |
LjL | so this guy in that video is just making a big deal out of something that isn't, and trying a bit too hard at it too | 04:35 |
ashianju[m] | thanks for that, I hope he is not in on the plandemic | 04:36 |
ashianju[m] | I mean Trump | 04:36 |
LjL | or maybe there isn't one | 04:37 |
LjL | again, this guy is just creating huge expectations by repeating the same thing over and over | 04:37 |
LjL | it's a very obvious rhetorical tactic | 04:38 |
LjL | way too obvious if you ask me | 04:38 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Haiti: +141 cases (now 1584) since a day ago — Bolivia: +344 cases (now 8731), +7 deaths (now 300) since a day ago — World: +485 cases (now 6.0 million), +7 deaths (now 366971) since an hour ago — South Korea: +39 cases (now 11441) since 23 hours ago | 04:38 |
ashianju[m] | watch a plandemic if you think there isn't one LjL https://www.brighteon.com/1099ef75-066c-41ae-9277-ddc14f8791ad | 04:39 |
LjL | one debunking at a time, i think | 04:40 |
ashianju[m] | you one of the guys who says that everything is debunked and everything is conspiracy theory, is the government paying you for that? | 04:41 |
LjL | no, and neither are they paying me to quiet the hell out of you for merely making this allegation | 04:44 |
LjL | i debunked your first video | 04:44 |
LjL | very easily | 04:44 |
LjL | you didn't disagree with my stance | 04:44 |
LjL | you showed me a MUCH LONGER video | 04:44 |
LjL | with the story of some person | 04:44 |
LjL | that it would take me MUCH LONGER to debunk | 04:44 |
LjL | this is a clear tactic | 04:44 |
LjL | i can see it, i can smell it, and hopefully so can everybody else | 04:44 |
LjL | so since this is not the channel for that sort of thing | 04:45 |
LjL | feel free to call your free speech restricted (you have none here) | 04:45 |
LjL | ashianju[m], and if you want to allege that i'm paid by someone to do something, maybe make sure they aren't paying me enough to sue you, because that's slander | 04:45 |
ryouma | i watched halfway through plandemic. mikovitz says something about the mutations of sars2. that part would have to be verifiable/debunkable using sequence databases i presume. | 05:06 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Kazakhstan: +450 cases (now 10382) since 22 hours ago — Western Australia, Australia: +8 cases (now 585) since a day ago — Quebec, Canada: +521 cases (now 50232), +60 deaths (now 4363) since a day ago — Ontario, Canada: +380 cases (now 28700), +21 deaths (now 2313) since a day ago | 05:08 |
ryouma | the documentary seems to be in favor of hydroxychloroquine. i wonder if she woulod say so now. | 05:15 |
CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Positive COVID-19 patient was at crowded Lake of the Ozarks bars over Memorial Day weekend (10602 votes) | https://redd.it/gt3f99 | 05:15 |
ryouma | seems to push the hygiene hypothesis | 05:21 |
dunnp | LjL: btw let me know where to send the check | 05:45 |
dunnp | woops meant for pm ignore ;) | 05:45 |
LjL | lol | 05:46 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Myanmar: +17 cases (now 224) since 11 hours ago — Pakistan: +2429 cases (now 66457), +78 deaths (now 1395) since 23 hours ago — World: +2448 cases (now 6.0 million), +78 deaths (now 367060) since 48 minutes ago — Bhutan: +2 cases (now 33) since a day ago | 05:53 |
Jigsy | %cases Minnesota | 05:54 |
Brainstorm | Jigsy: In Minnesota, US, there have been 23531 confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 1006 deaths (4.3% of cases) as of 11 hours ago. 233873 tests were performed (10.1% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 05:54 |
ryouma | i don't think you can infer anything from that video. it does not supply enough context for any claim it makes. | 05:54 |
ryouma | to put it differently, it does not make sense without context, and might not make sense at all. and it has too much emotive clips. | 05:57 |
ryouma | that is not to say that there is not a lot of politics in biomedicine, but you aren't going to learn about any of it from the video | 06:00 |
CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Magnetic Resonance Imaging Alteration of the Brain in a Patient With COVID-19 and Anosmia (80 votes) | https://redd.it/gsunoi | 06:34 |
dividediff[m] | Update from the george floyd protests; | 07:46 |
dividediff[m] | if you look at snap chat public vids; https://map.snapchat.com/@-22.237211,-44.141048,7.09z | 07:46 |
dividediff[m] | you can see a number of protesters are wearing masks. However many have them pulled down to like their chin, maybe due to heat? In one of the vids a member of the military was ruoghing. I guess the best anti riot/protest tool is corona huh? Can't protest if KOed in icu | 07:46 |
ryouma | i wouldn't say that even of a protestor. they are astroturfed. | 08:05 |
ryouma | oh i see what you mean never mind | 08:05 |
kirk781 | %data India | 08:29 |
Brainstorm | kirk781: In India, there have been 173763 confirmed cases (0.0% of the population) and 4980 deaths (2.9% of cases) as of 16 minutes ago. 3.6 million tests were performed (4.8% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 1.0% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 5.7% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=India for time series data. | 08:29 |
Urchin | %data croatia | 08:32 |
Brainstorm | Urchin: In Croatia, there have been 2245 confirmed cases (0.1% of the population) and 103 deaths (4.6% of cases) as of 17 hours ago. 65509 tests were performed (3.4% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 1.5% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 4.8% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Croatia for time series data. | 08:32 |
CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: An open letter to Mehra et al and The Lancet (80 votes) | https://redd.it/gsq8s5 | 09:00 |
CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: A COVID-19 vaccine has passed its first human trial. But is it the frontrunner? (80 votes) | https://redd.it/gt2d1h | 09:24 |
Brainstorm | Updates for El Salvador: +117 cases (now 2395), +2 deaths (now 44) since a day ago — Armenia: +251 cases (now 8927), +7 deaths (now 127) since a day ago — Afghanistan: +770 cases (now 14429), +2 deaths (now 248) since a day ago — Ukraine: +393 cases (now 23204), +17 deaths (now 696) since a day ago | 09:39 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Madagascar: +60 cases (now 758), +1 deaths (now 6) since 23 hours ago — Russia: +8952 cases (now 396575), +181 deaths (now 4555) since a day ago — Oman: +603 cases (now 10423), +2 deaths (now 42) since a day ago — Bangladesh: +1764 cases (now 44608), +28 deaths (now 610) since a day ago | 12:35 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Nepal: +189 cases (now 1401) since 23 hours ago — Iran: +2282 cases (now 148950), +57 deaths (now 7734) since a day ago — World: +2588 cases (now 6.1 million), +57 deaths (now 367457) since 20 minutes ago — Senegal: +106 cases (now 3535) since 20 minutes ago | 12:50 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Ethiopia: +95 cases (now 1063) since 23 hours ago — World: +453 cases (now 6.1 million), +1 deaths (now 367458) since 17 minutes ago — India: +54 cases (now 174355), +1 deaths (now 4982) since 35 minutes ago — Bahrain: +291 cases (now 10740) since 16 hours ago | 13:05 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Qatar: +2355 cases (now 55262) since a day ago — Kuwait: +1008 cases (now 26192), +11 deaths (now 205) since 21 hours ago — World: +3364 cases (now 6.1 million), +11 deaths (now 367469) since 17 minutes ago — Bosnia and Herz.: +9 cases (now 2494) since 23 hours ago | 13:20 |
LjL | Italy confirms we're re-opening regional borders on June 3 | 13:57 |
_abc_ | Reading up a bit, Nipah virus is also fruit bat borne. What the. Why are the deadliest viruses so far discovered "recently" all fruit bat related? | 13:58 |
LjL | (and the tracing app still isn't released) | 13:59 |
_abc_ | LjL: regional means internal to Italy? Between regions? | 13:59 |
LjL | _abc_, yes | 13:59 |
_abc_ | Tracing apps are problematic everywhere. | 13:59 |
_abc_ | It's unlikely a lot of people will use them even if forced. | 13:59 |
dividediff[m] | Iran is having 2nd wave. | 13:59 |
dividediff[m] | Skorea might be having 2nd wave, more like a bump tho | 14:00 |
LjL | _abc_, it's even more unlikely if they aren't releasing | 14:00 |
dividediff[m] | Does anyone else gotten a 2nd wave so far? | 14:01 |
LjL | _abc_, not sure about *fruit* bats, but a theory is that bats get very warm when they're flying, over 42 degrees, and cellular death happens at those temperatures. so they have stray, damaged DNA inside themselves from dead cells when they fly. if their immune system worked like ours, they would have an autoimmune storm against that "foreign" DNA. so instead of having an "accelerator" and "brake" system (i won't try to remember which hormones or similar | 14:01 |
LjL | are involved in these actions), they are more like on a soft brake all the time. this means they can cope with many viruses they harbor, but they never completely destroy them. | 14:01 |
LjL | it's a compromise that works for them, but then when they come into contact with other mammals, there's a problem | 14:02 |
LjL | so it boils down to the fact bats are the only mammal that flies | 14:02 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Gibraltar: +8 cases (now 169) since 23 hours ago — Belarus: +894 cases (now 41658), +5 deaths (now 229) since a day ago — Sweden: +637 cases (now 37113), +45 deaths (now 4395) since a day ago — Iowa, US: +132 cases (now 19088), +3 deaths (now 527) since 13 hours ago | 14:05 |
MBip[m] | <LjL "so it boils down to the fact bat"> Or rather: we call all flying mammals "bat". There are at least two quite unrelated groups - or at least so I was told on a recent "bat spotting night" that I joined. | 14:19 |
MBip[m] | > <@freenode_LjL:matrix.org> so it boils down to the fact bats are the only mammal that flies | 14:20 |
MBip[m] | * Or rather: we call all flying mammals "bat". Recently it was discovered there are at least two genetically quite unrelated groups - or at least so I was told on a recent "bat spotting night" that I joined. | 14:20 |
LjL | fair enough, anyway this theory is based on the fact that they fly, and their immmune system had to adapt to that | 14:20 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Djibouti: +280 cases (now 3194), +2 deaths (now 22) since a day ago — Portugal: +257 cases (now 32203), +13 deaths (now 1396) since 23 hours ago — Ghana: +152 cases (now 7768), +1 deaths (now 35) since a day ago — Sierra Leone: +23 cases (now 852), +1 deaths (now 46) since 21 hours ago | 14:20 |
_abc_ | Ok, so what about avians of the high metabolism kind? Humming birds for example? Should also work there, I think? | 14:24 |
_abc_ | Interesting explanation wrt getting hot when flying. I assume people tested this properly? It's quite easy to see now, lots of IR camera gear one can use for this. | 14:25 |
_abc_ | Literally see, bats in natural environment flapping about in the dark + ir camera. | 14:26 |
_abc_ | Aka thermal camera. The same ones used now to track covid suspects by body heat in public places like airports. | 14:26 |
_abc_ | Have to wave hand Force style to get the doors open. | 14:27 |
_abc_ | I mean, for the bat temperature theory, I can see where it could be a good explanation, but also where it is so easy to check, there is no way nobody did that yet, | 14:28 |
_abc_ | https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0306456596000393 an abstract with numbers | 14:32 |
genera | their claim is, that the bat is the only mammal which can fly. besides godzilla. | 14:35 |
_abc_ | https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2931312/ yet you seem to be right, tropical bat species have this problem | 14:35 |
_abc_ | They need to shed heat in 37-38 degC ambient and that is only possible by evaporation or by being hotter than the ambient by a good bit | 14:35 |
_abc_ | *ferous? | 14:36 |
_abc_ | Horses come to mind here for some reason. | 14:36 |
_abc_ | Even so, I do not see consistent >40 degC anywhere so far. | 14:38 |
_abc_ | Humming birds indeed have very high body temperatures, 41 degC | 14:42 |
LjL | _abc_, i don't know about avians, but they are a rather different lineage (dinosaurs!) than mammals | 14:42 |
_abc_ | But harbor no known dangerous virus :) that we know of. | 14:42 |
LjL | their flying works differently, and probably so does their immune system... | 14:42 |
LjL | _abc_, well, avian flu is very dangerous though, although it doesn't appear to be human-to-human transmissible | 14:43 |
LjL | but if you get it from a bird, you're pretty much dead | 14:43 |
_abc_ | And are super cute. I once lived in an apartment where there was some climbing flower covering the facade and the little birds would come and drink from the flowers. | 14:43 |
_abc_ | Well the tasty little dinosaurs could get us all with avian flu. Yes. | 14:43 |
LjL | _abc_, maybe bats need the fur because despite high temperatures when flying, they are also exposed to low temperatures with humidity in caves (but i'm just making guesses here) | 14:44 |
LjL | birds are amazing | 14:44 |
LjL | parrots, crows/ravens and others in particular | 14:44 |
_abc_ | LjL: the links I read say the caves where they congregate during the daytime (hot!) are more like 38-40 degC and 100% RH. | 14:44 |
LjL | _abc_, i don't know then | 14:45 |
_abc_ | I was just following up on your idea. Perhaps in some cases it is true, what you said. | 14:45 |
LjL | _abc_, anyway to be clear, this cave thing is something i just made up as a hypothesis. the one about body heat when flying and their immune system is something i read, not something i made up, although i don't remember the source right now tbh | 14:45 |
_abc_ | But all animals which can help it keep body temp under 42 degC at all times with good reason. | 14:45 |
_abc_ | And probably have much more immunity than we know of to have been around for 100s of millions of years, unlike humans. | 14:46 |
_abc_ | So whatever makes these guys tick, works. And has been working for a long long long time. | 14:46 |
_abc_ | There's no guarantee humans were not "created" by some nasty virus higher apes caught and bred over time. | 14:47 |
_abc_ | One virus or 10 or 100s over thousands of years. | 14:47 |
_abc_ | This is probably part of evolution as much as environment change and other factors. | 14:48 |
_abc_ | Darwin could not have known these things way back then, as co-factors in evolution, human and otherwise. | 14:49 |
_abc_ | Did they find the virus which causes Tasmanian Devil's face cancer and wiping those out? | 14:50 |
_abc_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_facial_tumour_disease this. | 14:50 |
_abc_ | duh non viral | 14:50 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Azerbaijan: +257 cases (now 5246), +3 deaths (now 61) since 23 hours ago — Virginia, US: +1078 cases (now 43611), +12 deaths (now 1370) since a day ago — Saudi Arabia: +1618 cases (now 83384), +22 deaths (now 480) since a day ago — Georgia (US), US: +357 cases (now 46220), +19 deaths (now 2003) since 14 hours ago | 15:50 |
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Jigsy | %cases UK | 16:33 |
Brainstorm | Jigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 271222 confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 38161 deaths (14.1% of cases) as of 21 hours ago. 5.4 million tests were performed (5.0% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data. | 16:33 |
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Brainstorm | Updates for Comoros: +19 cases (now 106) since 2 days ago — Chile: +4220 cases (now 94858), +53 deaths (now 997) since a day ago — United Kingdom: +1604 cases (now 272826), +215 deaths (now 38376) since 22 hours ago — World: +12331 cases (now 6.1 million), +471 deaths (now 368236) since 34 minutes ago | 17:51 |
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CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Belgian prince travels to the south of Spain, violates mandatory 14 day quarantine, celebrates party violating social distancing, then tests positive for Coronavirus (10415 votes) | https://redd.it/gte35j | 18:35 |
CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Pediatric Crohn's Disease and Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children (MIS-C) and COVID-19 Treated with Infliximab (85 votes) | https://redd.it/gtd8zi | 18:35 |
CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Predictors for Severe COVID-19 Infection (85 votes) | https://redd.it/gtfmgg | 19:11 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Egypt: +1367 cases (now 23449), +34 deaths (now 913) since a day ago — Yemen: +27 cases (now 310), +12 deaths (now 77) since a day ago — Louisiana, US: +772 cases (now 39581), +19 deaths (now 2785) since 23 hours ago — New York, US: +1216 cases (now 378930), +66 deaths (now 29817) since 19 hours ago | 20:06 |
ytlyv9 | https://www.digi77.com/linux-kodachi/ | 20:08 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Mauritania: +60 cases (now 483) since 23 hours ago — South Africa: +1727 cases (now 30967), +32 deaths (now 643) since 23 hours ago — France: +1790 cases (now 188625), +57 deaths (now 28771) since a day ago — South Carolina, US: +263 cases (now 11394), +4 deaths (now 487) since 23 hours ago | 20:51 |
CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Surgical mask partition reduces the risk of non-contact transmission in a golden Syrian hamster model for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) (80 votes) | https://redd.it/gtfbuj | 21:18 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Rwanda: +4 cases (now 359), +1 deaths (now 1) since 22 hours ago — Utah, US: +269 cases (now 9533), +5 deaths (now 112) since a day ago — Arkansas, US: +236 cases (now 7013), +1 deaths (now 133) since 21 hours ago — Michigan, US: +263 cases (now 56884), +57 deaths (now 5463) since a day ago | 21:36 |
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Brainstorm | Updates for Libya: +12 cases (now 130) since 23 hours ago — Ivory Coast: +49 cases (now 2799), +1 deaths (now 33) since 21 hours ago — World: +61 cases (now 6.1 million), +1 deaths (now 369298) since 18 minutes ago | 22:07 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Peru: +7386 cases (now 155671), +141 deaths (now 4371) since 21 hours ago — Massachusetts, US: +789 cases (now 96301), +50 deaths (now 6768) since 23 hours ago — Connecticut, US: +260 cases (now 42022), +44 deaths (now 3912) since 23 hours ago — Alabama, US: +156 cases (now 17359), +2 deaths (now 618) since 2 hours ago | 22:37 |
LjL | well, one thing i can say for sure | 22:40 |
LjL | Qatar IS testing | 22:40 |
Arsanerit | Can Qatar authorities be trusted to report accurate numbers? | 22:56 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Central African Rep.: +88 cases (now 962) since 21 hours ago — Texas, US: +342 cases (now 62674), +5 deaths (now 1670) since 34 minutes ago — US: +459 cases (now 1.8 million), +7 deaths (now 105355) since 34 minutes ago — Germany: +132 cases (now 183281), +2 deaths (now 8600) since 3 hours ago | 23:07 |
LjL | Arsanerit, why would they *inflate* their numbers making it by far the country withe *most* infections per capita? | 23:08 |
LjL | that goes slightly contrary to uhm... what other countries have been alleged of doing | 23:08 |
Arsanerit | LjL: I don't know. Didn't Trump say it's good that they have the most cases? "We win!" | 23:09 |
Arsanerit | I haven't been paying attention to Qatar. | 23:09 |
LjL | well, my guess is that they are just testing a lot, and catching most cases | 23:10 |
LjL | similar to other rich countries in the area, for that matter. but more. | 23:10 |
MBip[m] | <Arsanerit "LjL: I don't know. Didn't Trump"> As alleged [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkU1ob_lHCw)? | 23:11 |
Arsanerit | Ok. | 23:12 |
_abc_ | Has there been a discussion here on the covid politics in Germany, the scandal of the Document 93 released by a German Interior Ministry worker named Stephan Kohn? | 23:43 |
_abc_ | The Stephan in this document, not the lawyer, I think: https://rm.coe.int/1680748080 | 23:44 |
_abc_ | Alas most articles are paywalled, and all are in German for now. | 23:48 |
_abc_ | He was/is a (fired) high ranking functionary in the Interior Ministry of .de tasked with disaster measures control/organization. | 23:49 |
_abc_ | one relevant link with commentary all in German alas. https://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/aerger-im-innenministerium-was-hinter-dem-unautorisierten-corona-bericht-steckt/25823472.html | 23:51 |
_abc_ | Do you see reports on non corona deaths daily in your countries? There are no such reports here so far. | 23:52 |
Brainstorm | Updates for California, US: +2420 cases (now 109563), +54 deaths (now 4210) since 48 minutes ago — US: +2812 cases (now 1.8 million), +159 deaths (now 105514) since 48 minutes ago — Kentucky, US: +240 cases (now 9704), +13 deaths (now 431) since 23 hours ago — Dominican Rep.: +377 cases (now 16908), +10 deaths (now 498) since a day ago | 23:52 |
_abc_ | https://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/autor-des-corona-papiers-im-bmi-so-reagiert-die-spd-auf-die-irrfahrt-des-stephan-kohn/25831928.html another link, more descriptive. | 23:53 |
_abc_ | Apparently misreporting up to +11000 deaths in Germany at one point. | 23:54 |
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