| brolin_empey | 128×64 display != smartphone. Even a Palm OS computer whose wireless connectivity is limited to infrared has more screen area in pixels. | 00:55 |
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| brolin_empey | A (mobile) telephone with an HDD could literally be a SMARTphone, though. | 01:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what do you think of retinking the concept of "smartphone" completely? | 01:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I think I elaborated on it a few weeks ago | 01:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | brolin_empey: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/irclogs/freenode/_neo900/_neo900.2018-10-28.log.html#t2018-10-28T19:06:32 | 01:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a pity nobody answered or even just commented on this | 01:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | TL;DR: you carry the battery and modem(mainboard block in your jacket pocket, you have a BT in-ear headset and you look at the smartwatch and control the device with either the watch's touchscreen or gestures or voice via the headset | 01:25 |
| pigeons | yeah i like that direction. I don't know if will be a mass preference or not. But this project isn't focusing on preferences of the masses | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for games you either connect the mainboard block (MBB) to a nearby TV with a HDMI cable or by WLAN, or you use a VR goggles, or a dedicated Neo display block | 01:27 |
| brolin_empey | I do not wear anything on my wrists/hands/fingers. The handheld computer I carry in my pants pocket is my watch. | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok, so how about a "Neo Classic handset" that has display and hw T9 keyboard and audio, with formfactor of a clamshell or candybar featurephone? | 01:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ultraqsmall since it doesn't need modem or antenna or any large battery | 01:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | could be the size of a credit card with a 5mm thickness | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | e-paper display if we like | 01:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | brolin_empey: as I elaborated in ^^^ URL, we need a new concept as the original Neo900 approach is almost unfeasible meanwhile, and not attractive either | 01:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for sure we need such a concept for a successor device (STEP2) no matter if we can and will build Neo900 or not | 01:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~step2 | 01:34 |
| infobot | i guess step2 is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1444602, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1444625 | 01:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I also think the classical voice call is 'not fashionable' anymore. Seems people more and more do text, in whatsapp, facebook, twitter etc. Even phonecalls are done using those apps | 01:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not saying we should ignore and not support classical carrier switched voicecalls, but the focus seems to have shifted quite a bit | 01:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | probably the mainstream (I beg I won't be part of it) will rather go "OK Google, tell my wife I'll be 30 minutes late for dinner" | 01:39 |
| brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: I redd your referenced channel log. It is interesting. | 01:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | brolin_empey: thanks | 01:45 |
| brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: I got the impression that you are not married but I do not know if I actually have anything real to suggest that. | 01:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | brolin_empey: one component I forgot to list: docking station: plug in the MBB and have it connected to a classical kb+mouse+monitor+audio+network seat, or alternatively acting as cnetral media player for your home | 01:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | brolin_empey: ((married, suggest)) hmmm? | 01:49 |
| brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: I meant that I thought you are not married to another person but I do not know if I have anything specific to suggest that you are not married to another person. | 01:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | is there a particular reason you're asking(?) that? | 01:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, "tell my wife" | 01:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not married, GF | 01:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or part-time single, thanks to this project :-/ | 01:54 |
| Oksana | Problem with voice calls is, they often have to be done outside of ear shot of other people, and in a relatively quiet place. Bus/car/train, or an open office space, or a library, don't work well with phone calls. | 01:55 |
| brolin_empey | Oksana: Yes unless you and the other party can speak a language that no one else who can hear you can understand. ;-) | 01:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or you do like that woman I seen this afternoon: standing on the pavement, staring at a virtual horizon and shouting "yeah, it already depressed me this morning when he said he'll be late tonight, but that's what it always is now [...] Yeah you're right, this is one of the point... (etc)" | 01:58 |
| Oksana | Bad microphone? ;-) And yes, phone calls are best made when walking outdoors - unless traffic is too noisy. | 01:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 20 years ago the paramedics had fetched her, offering her a nice comfortable jacket. Nowadays it's obviously a normal way top have a phonecall with your phone in handsfree mode in front of your belly | 01:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | afk | 02:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Oksana: you should either linger in channels or check chanlogs, when you post questions ;-D | 02:01 |
| Oksana | Doesn't matter much whether they can understand. Part of point is, not distracting other people who can complain about noisy phone calls. Another part of point is, having a clear phone call without ambient noise making it difficult to hear each other. | 02:08 |
| brolin_empey | https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-k1QLeojZ1f0/W-pkJN7l-TI/AAAAAAAABaw/SVb26l6Y8uwRe0KZVKfOfkZr_xK4NhJXwCL0BGAYYCw/h1536/7198985352555491780%253Faccount_id%253D7 | 06:49 |
| brolin_empey | Still no success with USB↔Ethernet adapter on the stock but rooted Android OS 4.4 on brolin-GalaxyNote3. ☹ | 06:49 |
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