libera/#maemo/ Friday, 2019-05-17

brolin_empeyOksana: What is your point?  This Qicent hub is the first and still only USB hub I have that does not automatically enable a newly connected device but this hub is also the first and still only USB 3 hub I have but I do not think this behaviour changed from USB 1.x and 2 to 3.  Also, it should not matter but I use this USB 3 hub with a Renesas USB 3 host controller on a PCI Express add-in card instead of with a USB 3 host controller integrated on the01:15
brolin_empeymotherboard of my office computer because my office computer (Dell OptiPlex 960 minitower) is Core 2 era, not Nehalem era nor later, so the USB connectivity integrated on the motherboard is only USB 2, not USB 3.01:15
sunshavibq27200.sh where is the up to date version?02:56
Oksanabrolin_empey: Point is, it's a fairly complicated process to debug. I am fairly sure that there are lots of students at this university who (I think) speak Chinese, and could potentially ask Qicent about the problem - just, I am not sure what Qicent would say. Would it be "Oh, we send you a refund" or "We send you another hub" or a technical talk about details of the problem?05:41
* Oksana is hoping that Linux kernel is 4.6 or higher - and wonders if reinstalling/upgrading firmware of Renesas PCIe card could help05:52
DocScrutinizer05wireguard not ready for primetime is what they told me05:58
DocScrutinizer05~bq2720006:01
infoboti guess bq27k-detail is http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/bq27k-detail2, or ~bq2706:01
DocScrutinizer05~bq2706:01
infobotmethinks bq27 is http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/ bq27*, or http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/06:01
DocScrutinizer05I doubt a 2% are BQ's fault. Prolly powerkernel, CSSU-thumb, whatever06:03
DocScrutinizer05Konversation drives me nuts!!! resizes userlist to "hidden" every so often, without me ever noticing why and when06:07
slobberhow do i know which firmware is right for my n900? i tried the US one, no cellular network available. Tried the global one, same thing06:10
slobberreflashed with emmc06:10
DocScrutinizer05you generally use the global firmware. US is rarely known to be needed. You might need full reflash06:14
slobberfull reflash, huh?06:15
slobberi did both emmc and the, uh, other one06:15
slobberin that order06:15
DocScrutinizer05~flashing06:15
infoboti heard maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing06:15
slobberi did use the global firmwares from cloud-7.de06:15
slobberalright, maybe i'll try flashing it again using those06:15
DocScrutinizer05you should use the lazyflashing06:15
DocScrutinizer05script06:16
DocScrutinizer05might be necessary to remove SIM06:16
slobberremove sim during flashing?06:16
DocScrutinizer05yes06:16
slobberok, time to try that06:17
DocScrutinizer05a few reports suggested SIM causing trouble when flashing modem06:17
DocScrutinizer05doesn't the script mention that?06:17
slobberdoesn't seem like it06:18
DocScrutinizer05anyway, use the script, exactly follow instructions06:18
DocScrutinizer05try to copy & paste the full diagnostic output of lazyflashing script to some pastebin06:19
DocScrutinizer05read the full flashing wikipage06:20
DocScrutinizer05oh, and make sure your battery is fully charged!06:23
slobberyup, been charging it all day06:23
DocScrutinizer05even than some old worn batteries might simply be too weak for operating the modem06:23
DocScrutinizer05then*06:24
slobberdoesn't seem to drain too fast06:24
DocScrutinizer05it's about impedance06:24
DocScrutinizer05not capacity06:24
slobberright06:24
DocScrutinizer05might run 7 days and yet drop to a less than 3V when modem draws >2A06:25
slobbersame error still, damn06:30
slobberit doesn't show that sign of missing sim card though06:30
slobberah, yeah, in the settings it can't find a network when i make it manual06:34
slobberoh no here we go it found it06:34
slobberbut 2g, and ATT doesn't do 2g so something is lying06:34
DocScrutinizer05well, the supported bands are not covering 100% of USA (concluding from 'ATT' and firmware choice)06:41
slobberhmmm, that's right, ATT is shutting off some of its 3g bands06:41
slobberthis may be a huge waste of time06:41
DocScrutinizer05well, at least I think another device proven to technically being OK and in working condition06:43
DocScrutinizer05maybe get a TMO SIM?06:43
slobberi have a huge grandfathered dicsount with ATT, so might as well keep it06:44
slobbershame!06:44
DocScrutinizer05or whatever needed at your location06:44
slobberi heard a lot of these are having failing modems - how does that usually present itself?06:45
DocScrutinizer05first asl a friend or in shop to try your N900 with their SIM06:45
DocScrutinizer05ask*06:45
slobberthat requires having friends06:45
slobberi'll ask around06:45
DocScrutinizer05failing modem... has a number of symptoms. *#06# not working anymore (communication to modem broken or modem not coming up). Or no network found (antenna or the RF part of modem broken)06:49
brolin_empeyslobber: The N900 cellular modem cannot be used with two of the three major, established cellular providers in Canada.  Maybe the situation in the USA is similar and the N900 cellular modem cannot be used with your cellular provider.  I live in Canada but very close to the USA.06:57
brolin_empeyOksana: The version of the Linux kernel on my home computer and office computer is NaN because I use GNU+Windows NT, currently Windows 10 Enterprise for x86-64, instead of GNU+Linux on my primary computers.07:03
brolin_empeyOr the version is undefined?07:03
DocScrutinizer05Not a Number?07:08
brolin_empeyYes.07:17
slobberbrolin_empey: so you don't use your n900 as a phone, i presume?07:30
slobberDocScrutinizer05: *#06# works. maybe it's the antenna?07:31
slobber>My guess would be that there isn't any discussion here as it lacks the 3G frequencies used by at&t (850/1900 mhz).  It will work on at&t, but only on GSM/GPRS(Edge). Smiley Sad07:32
slobberyour thoughts are confirmed though07:32
brolin_empeyslobber: I use the one major, established cellular provider in Canada with which the N900 cellular modem works but I stopped using an N900 in 2014 because my N900 user experience was too bad.07:33
slobberah, i see07:34
brolin_empeyCurrently I use Android OS 8 on an LG G5.07:36
slobberandroid is pretty sad, i'm over it07:36
Oksanabrolin_empey: I know Windows, I know Linux, I don't know what GNU could mean in context of OS/kernel ?..07:37
brolin_empeyslobber: Maybe you can use BlackBerry 10 if you like minority, legacy platforms and difficult to access/remove batteries?07:38
slobberbrolin_empey: maybe17:45

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