libera/#maemo/ Wednesday, 2019-04-24

brolin_empeyLTE/LTE-A is the future.  N900 != LTE.  Also, m14ed already left but not everyone here is male.14:06
auenfand not all of the males here are gentlemen?14:10
sixwheeledbeastLTE isn't the future14:18
sixwheeledbeast~gender14:19
infobotI'm pregnant14:19
brolin_empeyinfobot: Pregnant?14:20
infobotYes, brolin_empey, and it's your child.14:20
brolin_empeyThat reply would not make sense if I was female.14:21
brolin_empeyUnless it means that infobot wants to give her child to a woman who asks if infobot is pregnant.14:23
DocScrutinizer05a very polite and friendly person, this m14ed15:56
DocScrutinizer05well, infobot's gender is a miracle for modern science, seems to be undetermined like status of Schroedinger's cat15:59
DocScrutinizer05~attack brolin_empey15:59
* infobot grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing brolin_empey15:59
DocScrutinizer05~rape brolin_empey16:00
* infobot takes brolin_empey behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams16:00
DocScrutinizer05~gender16:00
infobotI'm gay16:00
DocScrutinizer05~gender16:01
infobotI'm lesbian16:01
DocScrutinizer05~gender16:01
infobotI'm male16:01
Vajbsince when are gay and lesbian genders?16:02
DocScrutinizer05~useless16:03
* infobot starts crying and hides from docscrutinizer05 in the darkest corner of the room. :(16:03
DocScrutinizer05~silly16:03
infobotsilly is probably 'a good question, the answer to which is "yes, i am"'16:03
DocScrutinizer05~stupid16:03
infoboti heard stupid is http://fun.drno.de/pics/english/bart.gif16:03
brolin_empeyWallMart != Walmart.16:14
brolin_empeyThe “Wal” in “Walmart” is from the name of the founder of the company, Sam Walton, not from “wall”.16:15
DocScrutinizer05sorry, modem reboot and thus disconnect16:21
DocScrutinizer05and that damn cablemodem is rebooting the 5th time now16:22
DocScrutinizer05luckily I got a failover connection16:23
DocScrutinizer05and next boot16:26
DocScrutinizer05and next boot16:29
* DocScrutinizer05 just wants to know how often that box of shit reboots when _not_ getting powercycled16:30
* DocScrutinizer05 just wants to know how often that box of shit reboots when _not_ getting powercycledaaaand...???16:33
DocScrutinizer05aaaand...?16:33
DocScrutinizer05seems it stays16:33
DocScrutinizer05after only 25 minutes and 8 boots16:34
sixwheeledbeast~insult infobot in bash16:50
infobotinfobot in bash is nothing but a fool-born mound of dread-bolted poop16:50
DocScrutinizer05~+uptime16:54
infobot- Uptime for purl -16:54
infobotNow: 1d 17h 57m 2s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux16:54
infobot1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 201016:54
infobot2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 200916:54
infobot3: 53d 8h 24m 4s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Nov  7 05:34:20 201716:54
DocScrutinizer05~+status16:54
infobotSince Mon Apr 22 20:57:11 2019, there have been 2 modifications, 40 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 21 commands.  I have been awake for 1d 17h 57m 10s this session, and currently reference 119796 factoids.  I'm using about 87180 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 163.28/29.51 child 0/016:54
sixwheeledbeastThat reminds me i need a new UPS battery16:55
DocScrutinizer05at least the failover and recovery works fine now16:55
DocScrutinizer05hmmm UPS battery... Should run a test eventually16:55
DocScrutinizer05~lf16:56
infobotsomebody said #maemo lazyflashing was http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach16:56
DocScrutinizer05one thing's for sure: the vodafone "mediathek" (cable TV on demand / IPTV) isn't worth a single cent of its cost16:58
DocScrutinizer05actually the whole cable-TV / IPTV is mere crap. If it wasn't for the 400/25 internet...16:59
sixwheeledbeastMost ISP's are bundling stuff like that now. It's hard to get VDSL without a TV package now17:01
DocScrutinizer05modems that need 8 reboots when disabling bridge-mode... Series final of Elementary ran a week ago, no way to watch it again in mediathek17:01
DocScrutinizer05EPG that doesn't knpw of program changes even if they are announced 48h in advance, a recorder that can't record stuff that's not listed in EPG (nice synergy in those two¡)17:02
sixwheeledbeastI suppose that's the issue with DOCSIS you have no control over what modem they provide you, unlike VDSL. Tho you benefit from faster up and down.17:03
DocScrutinizer05and every now and then the HDR simply reboots or locks up and needs power cycle17:03
DocScrutinizer05DOCSIS is what causes the 8 modem reboots17:04
DocScrutinizer05for nuttin17:04
DocScrutinizer05so not really faster up/down17:04
sixwheeledbeastThe cable may be balanced incorrectly if it happens often. DOCSIS it fussy about line quality and having the correct filtering.17:11
sixwheeledbeastWould have to moan to the ISP for an engineer to fix than.17:11
DocScrutinizer05line equ works fine. The modem bails out after trying to config "VoIP"17:14
DocScrutinizer05most likely on trying to set up friggin "homespot" which I explicitly opted out from17:15
DocScrutinizer05took them 3 months and me ~20h of hotline calls to get my account/DOCSIS set up so it _never_ enables the damn AP in modem17:18
DocScrutinizer05I guess they don't have that often, and they also are not very inclined to sell this featureset17:19
DocScrutinizer05after all their homespot stuff only works when >99% of users participate17:19
DocScrutinizer05thus they place a homespot AP into your flat even if you don't want any WLAN at all17:20
DocScrutinizer05there _are no_ modems without AP17:20
DocScrutinizer05https://zuhauseplus.vodafone.de/internet-telefon/wlan-hotspots/17:23
DocScrutinizer05damn17:23
DocScrutinizer05aaah https://hotspot.vodafone.de/hotspots.html17:25
brolin_empeyDocScrutinizer05: Can you get FttP service at your location?17:32
sixwheeledbeastThat seems to be an issue here with ISP's that are also cellular they offer guest WiFi via your internet that can't be switched off if you use there hardware17:33
DocScrutinizer05brolin_empey: nope17:34
sixwheeledbeastI need use any ISP provided kit where possible. DOCSIS is the most awkward to ditch the modem17:35
DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: yep, that's it. They clain you could switch it off via the web portal, but that's questionable17:35
sixwheeledbeasts/need/never/17:35
infobotsixwheeledbeast meant: I never use any ISP provided kit where possible. DOCSIS is the most awkward to ditch the modem17:35
brolin_empeyThe Nokia media converter (correct term?) box my ISP (Telus in Canada) provided when I switched from ADSL at both my home and office seems to mostly work well.17:35
DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: you can't even find the credentials to use their VoIP, "only via DOCSIS, even when you use your own Fritzbox Cablemodem-router"17:37
brolin_empeyAt both places I use my own gateway instead of using a gateway provided by the ISP.17:37
DocScrutinizer05gateway?17:37
* DocScrutinizer05 now needs to set up some VPN to finaly re-establish a way to "dial in" from internet17:38
DocScrutinizer05no IP with this cable service17:38
sixwheeledbeastAh I see we still have POTS when you have DOCSIS here17:39
DocScrutinizer05or rather, cgNAT with no open ports inbound17:39
DocScrutinizer05POTS is dead here17:39
brolin_empeyDocScrutinizer05: Yes, WAN↔LAN gateway, commonly known as a “router” but I use formal terms, not common usage.17:39
DocScrutinizer05even Telekom uses tripleplay17:39
DocScrutinizer05not even ISDN anymore17:40
DocScrutinizer05IOW with a power outage, no more phone >:-(17:41
DocScrutinizer05nowhere. Nada17:41
* DocScrutinizer05 wants to shoot the dude who allowed this concept17:42
sixwheeledbeastISDN and POTS are dying here for xDSL connections EOL in 2025. It's not certain how it will be implemented tho.17:42
sixwheeledbeasthowever POTS may stay on DOCSIS connections17:42
brolin_empeyAt least in my part of Canada (Metro Vancouver, British Columbia), the cellular network is still up while the electric mains is down.17:43
DocScrutinizer05sure, for a while17:43
DocScrutinizer05maybe the dwindling number of cellular phones with charged battery mitigates the service breakdown from clogging17:44
DocScrutinizer05but then, the BTS batteries also only last a maybe 12 or max 24h17:45
brolin_empeyI can power my handheld computer from my car while the electric mains is down.17:45
sixwheeledbeastThe idea behind killing POTS is so the exchanges can be made smaller and have no batteries that need maintaining17:47
brolin_empeyI can also keep spare charged batteries because I only use handheld computers with an easily removable battery.17:48
buZz:)17:48
DocScrutinizer05yeah, why batteries in exchanges when no customer can operate their "gateway" any more ;-D17:48
buZzi just bought a new lipo from aliexpress for a 2007 Zipit Z217:48
buZz\o/17:48
buZzthe newoldstock batteries are barely 100mAh left of the original 1200mAh17:49
brolin_empeyI remember when Zipit was a Windows application similar to WinZip.17:50
buZz:)17:50
buZzzipit wireless is a US company , making 'medical messengers'17:50
buZzbut back in early 2k they dabbled in making kids toys17:51
brolin_empeyYes, I remember reading about a Zipit computer running GNU+Linux years ago;  I guess it was the Z2 that you mentioned.17:52
buZzthe Z2 nowadays can run mainline linux17:55
buZzbut just 32MB ram so we're using openwrt as distro ;)17:55
brolin_empeyIs that the same amount of main memory as the PlayStation 2 has?17:56
buZzbut PS2 has another 4MB of video ram next to it17:58
brolin_empeyYes, I checked Wikipedia and see that my memory was accurate that the PlayStation 2 has 32 MiB of main memory.17:59
brolin_empeyI recall that a late IBM PS/2 model supports up to at least 64 MiB of main memory, more than the Sony PS2.18:01
buZz:)18:01
buZzcould very well be yeah :D18:02
sixwheeledbeastIf you have a UPS in theory you would still be fine. Most people would not.18:02
buZzi bet the PS2 devkits also had more ram18:02
DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: there's one gremlin in UPS here: the cable signal amp down in cellar which will cut me off from cable18:05
* DocScrutinizer05 got reminded to run a mains supply cable from first floor down to that damn amp18:06
sixwheeledbeastonly a small gremlin tho18:07
DocScrutinizer05yeah, very small and very close, all the more very annoying too18:07
brolin_empeyApparently an inkjet printer with automatic duplex printing does exist as a COTS product after all.  Interesting but I still prefer laser printers.22:31
brolin_empeyIs there a dot-matrix impact printer with automatic duplex printing?22:33
brolin_empeyHeh, my ISP sent my company a paper cheque for 3.72 CAD.23:59

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