DocScrutinizer05 | Enrico_M_RX-51: iirc there was a never solved glitch in BT depending on sequence of pairing stuff. Unpairing and re-pairing all devices helped | 00:27 |
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Enrico_M_RX-51 | DocScrutinizer05 So you think that the reason why now bt works is just a better pairing, and not related to the packages I installed? | 00:33 |
Enrico_M_RX-51 | I had already tried repairing, with no avail. After installing the packages, things worked at first try. | 00:35 |
Enrico_M_RX-51 | re-pairing... | 00:35 |
Enrico_M_RX-51 | Other topic: I tried a couple of youtube clients, but they don't work. Is there anything working nowadays? | 00:37 |
Enrico_M_RX-51 | Also, a strange thing: today I installed two applications, Opera and cutetube, but I don't get the icons in the app launcher. | 00:41 |
Enrico_M_RX-51 | Removed cutetube, no icon for opera. Installed wolan, icon for this AND opera (!). | 00:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | well, the new packages are for sure a more plausible reason for things working now | 01:02 |
DocScrutinizer05 | re icons in applauncher: there's a icon update job that should get started by the apt postinstall script. I can't recall the script name right now off top of my head | 01:05 |
Enrico_M_RX-51 | So for some reason the script did not work for opera and cutetube. | 01:07 |
DocScrutinizer05 | prolly jobname was update-desktop-database or another of the update<TAB><TAB> | 01:08 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yes, that's a known issue that smetimes this script fails | 01:09 |
DocScrutinizer05 | btw I think you need at least cutetube2 | 01:09 |
Enrico_M_RX-51 | Trying with mediabox, but seems no better. | 01:10 |
DocScrutinizer05 | sorry http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man1/update-desktop-database.1.html wrong job | 01:13 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I guess you already restarted desktip / device? | 01:20 |
Enrico_M_RX-51 | No, since now I have all icons. | 01:20 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Enrico_M_RX-51: /usr/bin/gtk-update-icon-cache | 01:25 |
DocScrutinizer05 | found thabnks to my great tool whichgrep | 01:26 |
DocScrutinizer05 | alias whichgrep='find `echo $PATH|sed "s/:/ /g"` -iname ' | 01:26 |
DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# whichgrep '*icon*' | 01:27 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) | 01:27 |
Enrico_M_RX-51 | Thanks, for now won't look further. Just in case. | 01:28 |
* DocScrutinizer05 finally needs to make a script that deploys all the aliases and bash startup scripts to $user@$targetmachine | 01:38 | |
Enrico_M_RX-51 | Installed cutetube2, founds videos but cant play them. Again no icon; ran that script as root. No result. | 01:50 |
Enrico_M_RX-51 | finds... | 01:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | restart gildon-desktop | 01:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | hildon even | 01:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | actually simply kill it | 01:51 |
Enrico_M_RX-51 | kill pid? | 01:51 |
Enrico_M_RX-51 | Ok, worked. | 01:53 |
Enrico_M_RX-51 | But cutetube2 not. | 01:53 |
Enrico_M_RX-51 | That's it for today. Bedtime. Bye! | 01:54 |
brolin_empey | Vajb: If you only need to host a static Web site or even a dynamic one if it can work with the software in Ubuntu 8.10, I can provide you hosting on my virtual dedicated server in Toronto. | 08:37 |
Wikiwide | Abiword is Gtk+, but not exactly Hildon - menu is atrocious, just like navit-gtk. And, when I ask File Manager to open .rtf with Abiword, Abiword fires up... Without the file, just Untitled. | 12:11 |
Wikiwide | MaemoPad is far more Hildonised, but... Instead of "Send with Email", "Send with Bluetooth" in menu, there should be single Share button, like everywhere. | 12:12 |
Wikiwide | And, MaemoPad, "Close" button should not be on menu! See top right corner. | 12:13 |
Wikiwide | Granted, MaemoPad can only open plain text files? | 12:16 |
Wikiwide | I wish I knew which Linux program treats RTF as native format, not as nuisance. | 12:18 |
KotCzarny | libreoffice? | 12:18 |
Wikiwide | So far, Libreoffice is best but far from perfect? | 12:18 |
KotCzarny | it's nice because it's multiplatform | 12:19 |
KotCzarny | but not really suited for 800x480 | 12:19 |
Wikiwide | Formatting is the trouble. Text is easy. | 12:19 |
KotCzarny | you can always convert text format | 12:19 |
KotCzarny | with cmdline tools | 12:19 |
Wikiwide | I don't care much for multi-platform programs. Libreoffice tends to depend on Java and be slow? | 12:20 |
KotCzarny | it depends on java for some functions only | 12:20 |
KotCzarny | i think | 12:20 |
Wikiwide | Either way, I don't think libreoffice is in Maemo repositories? | 12:21 |
KotCzarny | i bet it requires recent libs | 12:21 |
KotCzarny | not to mention heaps of memory | 12:22 |
Wikiwide | Heaps of memory, yesss... I would understand it for a docx, but I just wish for a text editor for a humble rtf. | 12:23 |
KotCzarny | abiword then | 12:23 |
KotCzarny | or rtf->html and some html editor | 12:23 |
KotCzarny | but that becomes a heap of trash sooner or later | 12:24 |
Wikiwide | Unless there is a more universally readable format for text document with formatting? And, HTML is bad at being a document - it doesn't understand pages. | 12:24 |
KotCzarny | pdf? | 12:24 |
KotCzarny | :P | 12:24 |
Wikiwide | LaTeX to PDF sounds excellent. | 12:25 |
KotCzarny | and yes, latex is universal academic formatting format | 12:25 |
Wikiwide | I wish... Docx is universal academic format, half of the time, in my humble experience. | 12:26 |
Wikiwide | Except, the only GUI for that is LyX, Qt-based. | 12:26 |
Wikiwide | https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=30876 | 12:31 |
Wikiwide | Anybody game to feed a LyX deb to auto-builder? | 12:32 |
brolin_empey | LibreOffice needs a JRE only for Base as far as I know. | 12:45 |
brolin_empey | CSS can control page breaks in an HTML document. | 12:46 |
KotCzarny | html sucks for books | 12:46 |
KotCzarny | although if one doesnt care much for layout it's fine | 12:46 |
brolin_empey | Maybe the Xanadu project of Ted Nelson is a paged medium? The World Wide Web is a continuous (non-paged) medium but CSS allows some control over paging. | 12:52 |
brolin_empey | Gopher still exists too but I do not know if it offers a benefit for the use case of Oksana. | 12:54 |
brolin_empey | You can still use PostScript but even the “Adobe Reader” can read only PDF, not PostScript. | 12:57 |
KotCzarny | pdf is subset of postscript | 12:58 |
KotCzarny | or it was long time ago | 12:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | >>when I ask File Manager to open .rtf with Abiword, Abiword fires up... Without the file<< check the desktop file, if the app gets file parameter in there | 17:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | >>a more universally readable format for text document with formatting<< LaTex, but you mentioned that a few lines down already | 17:55 |
DocScrutinizer05 | you should invent non-paged books instead ;-P Like Tora rolls, only modern and miniaturized and motorized | 18:00 |
sunshavi | Wikiwide: epub is a nice format is is html based there is a pkg "dorian" for reading epubs on n900 | 21:56 |
sunshavi | pandoc o calibre are the tools 4 converting among different formats | 21:57 |
* Maxdamantus imagines the best way to use epub would be to just run an HTTP server for it. | 22:35 | |
* Maxdamantus uses ZIM on N900 similarly: just running kiwix-serve and loading pages through Opera. | 22:36 |
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