libera/#maemo/ Tuesday, 2019-01-29

DocScrutinizer05Enrico_M_RX-51: iirc there was a never solved glitch in BT depending on sequence of pairing stuff. Unpairing and re-pairing all devices helped00:27
Enrico_M_RX-51DocScrutinizer05 So you think that the reason why now bt works is just a better pairing, and not related to the packages I installed?00:33
Enrico_M_RX-51I had already tried repairing, with no avail. After installing the packages, things worked at first try.00:35
Enrico_M_RX-51re-pairing...00:35
Enrico_M_RX-51Other topic: I tried a couple of youtube clients, but they don't work. Is there anything working nowadays?00:37
Enrico_M_RX-51Also, a strange thing: today I installed two applications, Opera and cutetube, but I don't get the icons in the app launcher.00:41
Enrico_M_RX-51Removed cutetube, no icon for opera. Installed wolan, icon for this AND opera (!).00:53
DocScrutinizer05well, the new packages are for sure a more plausible reason for things working now01:02
DocScrutinizer05re icons in applauncher: there's a icon update job that should get started by the apt postinstall script. I can't recall the script name right now off top of my head01:05
Enrico_M_RX-51So for some reason the script did not work for opera and cutetube.01:07
DocScrutinizer05prolly jobname was update-desktop-database or another of the update<TAB><TAB>01:08
DocScrutinizer05yes, that's a known issue that smetimes this script fails01:09
DocScrutinizer05btw I think you need at least cutetube201:09
Enrico_M_RX-51Trying with mediabox, but seems no better.01:10
DocScrutinizer05sorry http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man1/update-desktop-database.1.html wrong job01:13
DocScrutinizer05I guess you already restarted desktip / device?01:20
Enrico_M_RX-51No, since now I have all icons.01:20
DocScrutinizer05Enrico_M_RX-51: /usr/bin/gtk-update-icon-cache01:25
DocScrutinizer05found thabnks to my great tool whichgrep01:26
DocScrutinizer05alias whichgrep='find `echo $PATH|sed "s/:/ /g"` -iname '01:26
DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# whichgrep '*icon*'01:27
DocScrutinizer05;-)01:27
Enrico_M_RX-51Thanks, for now won't look further. Just in case.01:28
* DocScrutinizer05 finally needs to make a script that deploys all the aliases and bash startup scripts to $user@$targetmachine01:38
Enrico_M_RX-51Installed cutetube2, founds videos but cant play them. Again no icon; ran that script as root. No result.01:50
Enrico_M_RX-51finds...01:50
DocScrutinizer05restart gildon-desktop01:50
DocScrutinizer05hildon even01:51
DocScrutinizer05actually simply kill it01:51
Enrico_M_RX-51kill pid?01:51
Enrico_M_RX-51Ok, worked.01:53
Enrico_M_RX-51But cutetube2 not.01:53
Enrico_M_RX-51That's it for today. Bedtime. Bye!01:54
brolin_empeyVajb: If you only need to host a static Web site or even a dynamic one if it can work with the software in Ubuntu 8.10, I can provide you hosting on my virtual dedicated server in Toronto.08:37
WikiwideAbiword is Gtk+, but not exactly Hildon - menu is atrocious, just like navit-gtk. And, when I ask File Manager to open .rtf with Abiword, Abiword fires up... Without the file, just Untitled.12:11
WikiwideMaemoPad is far more Hildonised, but... Instead of "Send with Email", "Send with Bluetooth" in menu, there should be single Share button, like everywhere.12:12
WikiwideAnd, MaemoPad, "Close" button should not be on menu! See top right corner.12:13
WikiwideGranted, MaemoPad can only open plain text files?12:16
WikiwideI wish I knew which Linux program treats RTF as native format, not as nuisance.12:18
KotCzarnylibreoffice?12:18
WikiwideSo far, Libreoffice is best but far from perfect?12:18
KotCzarnyit's nice because it's multiplatform12:19
KotCzarnybut not really suited for 800x48012:19
WikiwideFormatting is the trouble. Text is easy.12:19
KotCzarnyyou can always convert text format12:19
KotCzarnywith cmdline tools12:19
WikiwideI don't care much for multi-platform programs. Libreoffice tends to depend on Java and be slow?12:20
KotCzarnyit depends on java for some functions only12:20
KotCzarnyi think12:20
WikiwideEither way, I don't think libreoffice is in Maemo repositories?12:21
KotCzarnyi bet it requires recent libs12:21
KotCzarnynot to mention heaps of memory12:22
WikiwideHeaps of memory, yesss... I would understand it for a docx, but I just wish for a text editor for a humble rtf.12:23
KotCzarnyabiword then12:23
KotCzarnyor rtf->html and some html editor12:23
KotCzarnybut that becomes a heap of trash sooner or later12:24
WikiwideUnless there is a more universally readable format for text document with formatting? And, HTML is bad at being a document - it doesn't understand pages.12:24
KotCzarnypdf?12:24
KotCzarny:P12:24
WikiwideLaTeX to PDF sounds excellent.12:25
KotCzarnyand yes, latex is universal academic formatting format12:25
WikiwideI wish... Docx is universal academic format, half of the time, in my humble experience.12:26
WikiwideExcept, the only GUI for that is LyX, Qt-based.12:26
Wikiwidehttps://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=3087612:31
WikiwideAnybody game to feed a LyX deb to auto-builder?12:32
brolin_empeyLibreOffice needs a JRE only for Base as far as I know.12:45
brolin_empeyCSS can control page breaks in an HTML document.12:46
KotCzarnyhtml sucks for books12:46
KotCzarnyalthough if one doesnt care much for layout it's fine12:46
brolin_empeyMaybe the Xanadu project of Ted Nelson is a paged medium?  The World Wide Web is a continuous (non-paged) medium but CSS allows some control over paging.12:52
brolin_empeyGopher still exists too but I do not know if it offers a benefit for the use case of Oksana.12:54
brolin_empeyYou can still use PostScript but even the “Adobe Reader” can read only PDF, not PostScript.12:57
KotCzarnypdf is subset of postscript12:58
KotCzarnyor it was long time ago12:58
DocScrutinizer05>>when I ask File Manager to open .rtf with Abiword, Abiword fires up... Without the file<< check the desktop file, if the app gets file parameter in there17:51
DocScrutinizer05>>a more universally readable format for text document with formatting<< LaTex, but you mentioned that a few lines down already17:55
DocScrutinizer05you should invent non-paged books instead ;-P Like Tora rolls, only modern and miniaturized and motorized18:00
sunshaviWikiwide: epub is a nice format is is html based there is a pkg "dorian" for reading epubs on n90021:56
sunshavipandoc o calibre are the tools 4 converting among different formats21:57
* Maxdamantus imagines the best way to use epub would be to just run an HTTP server for it.22:35
* Maxdamantus uses ZIM on N900 similarly: just running kiwix-serve and loading pages through Opera.22:36

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