libera/#maemo/ Thursday, 2018-10-18

sicelowe still have quite number of v4 this side too, to the point that neighboring South Africa, for example, has at least two mobile operators who give public IP to cellular phones :P00:00
sicelorecently they NAt everyone, but you can request 'unrestricted apn' for free and very easily00:01
sixwheeledbeastMany mobile cos here use CGN, it creates massive headaches for some applications.00:04
sixwheeledbeastIt's becoming popular for ISP's tho to, as mobile co's become ISP's too.00:05
brolin_empey(notes being lost) Maybe this is why Android switched from using USB Mass Storage to MTP?  Can Maemo use MTP instead of USB Mass Storage?03:57
MaxdamantusI imagine the reason why something like Android would use MTP would be because sharing a storage device requires change in ownership.04:09
Maxdamantusyour PC can't have access to the filesystem at the same time as your phone, so your phone has to unmount it before it can be shared.04:09
MaxdamantusYou don't have that problem if you use a protocol for accessing files (like MTP, smb, NFS, FUSE, 9P/Styx) instead of accessing blocks on a storage device.04:11
Maxdamantusand out of the ones I listen, MTP is pretty much the only one that will just work with the way people normally use USB, since the others are network protocols.04:12
MaxdamantusI can't remember exactly how Maemo handled this stuff, but iirc it was not correct, so you could easily end up with a corrupt filesystem due to multiple systems reading/writing to it.04:13
brolin_empeyYes, I know that.  MTP is definitely distinguishable from USB Mass Storage in my experience, though.  At least on Windows.04:14
* Maxdamantus would never use UMS mode on his actual partitions without explicitly unmounting.04:14
fishbulbhey, my android phone is dead18:58
fishbulbI have an n900 with cssu for the meantime, how do i access gmail?18:58
fishbulbis there a browser that will do it? the repos seem to work18:58
KotCzarnygmail allows imap18:59
KotCzarnyso i suspect add gmail imap account to email app18:59
fishbulbwhich imap account19:01
fishbulbi cant access it19:01
fishbulbthis is literally the only internet device i have19:01
fishbulbi usually use gmail in a browser19:02
KotCzarnyjust checked, gmail allows imap. just enable it in settings and add such account to email app19:02
KotCzarnyit also allows pop access19:02
sixwheeledbeastUse a mail client on the N900?19:03
fishbulbhow do iget to the settings with the n90019:03
fishbulbim on it now and its the only device i ahave that has internet19:03
KotCzarnytry installing fennec19:04
KotCzarnyits old and slow but might work19:04
fishbulbwhats fennec19:04
KotCzarnyold mobile firefox19:04
fishbulbthis device is old and slow19:04
fishbulbapt-get install fennec ?19:06
sixwheeledbeaster not apt19:07
fishbulbok the repos aren't working19:07
fishbulbwith app manager19:07
KotCzarny~maemo-repos19:08
infobotmethinks maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories19:08
siceloN900 email client is perfectly fine on Gmail19:08
KotCzarnysicelo: but afair gmail doesnt have imap/pop enabled by default19:08
fishbulbi cant get to the settings19:09
KotCzarnyso it need to be toggled first via ww19:09
KotCzarny*www19:09
sicelofennec is probably ont best choice for someone saying 'this device is old and slow' - perhaps can suggest Opera Mobile19:09
sicelos/ont/not/19:09
infobotsicelo meant: fennec is probably not best choice for someone saying 'this device is old and slow' - perhaps can suggest Opera Mobile19:09
fishbulbopera doesnt work19:09
sicelodoesn't work?19:09
fishbulband the standard browser doesnt19:11
fishbulbwith gmail19:11
fishbulbthe only problem19:11
fishbulbi mean the perimary problem im trying to get to on this thing19:11
KotCzarnyalso, i think gmail has 'legacy mode'19:13
fishbulbgmail access is critical. if any of you guys are german19:13
KotCzarnywhich uses simpler html/js19:13
sicelofishbulb: i am (rhight now) looking at my gmail from N900 'standard browser'19:14
fishbulbim in a homeless shelter and m19:14
fishbulbneed to get to the neherlands19:14
fishbulbwhere i am at least a citizen. this place is dirtier and less safe than jail19:14
sicelomaybe you have other problems19:16
KotCzarnygo to public library/internet cafe and toggle the setting there? if you have two-factor authentication, you should be safe after logging out19:16
sixwheeledbeast2FA may trigger a lock out?19:17
sixwheeledbeastDepends on your second factor I suppose19:17
fishbulbthis is weird. it didnt let me all day19:17
fishbulbthis n900 might be compromised19:20
sixwheeledbeastHow do you figure that?19:21
KotCzarnyoh, you are that one paranoid guy19:22
siceloso it let you in now? :P19:22
fishbulbim paranoid for a reason19:25
fishbulbit said remote server something disconnected every time19:25
fishbulbi am sleeping in rooms with other people who mess with my belongings. they do it once and its game over for that device if you want to attempt to have privacy19:26
fishbulbhostels afre whwere gargbage lives. here in berlin. people live in them long term and the state pays. these people soetimews arent the most trustworthy19:29
fishbulbif you leave anything unattended for a minute it is messed with.19:30
fishbulbwhich browser has the most chance of handling flights19:30
fishbulbbookings19:31
sixwheeledbeastany browser that you can get working. I'd try opera first.19:31
VajbI use gmail on n900 with default mail client. Never had any problems19:32
KotCzarnyvajb, care to create new gmail account and checking if it has imap enabled by default?19:32
Vajbnah, but Im pretty sure it has since I never changed any settings in gmail19:33
fishbulbits not a default account. but the plain htlml is working19:35
fishbulbin microb19:35
fishbulbthis might be enough but i cant change settings19:35
siceloiamp is not enabled by default, of course19:38
fishbulbnot without a supported browser19:38
KotCzarnyfishbulb, you can also give gmail credentials to someone to toggle the setting19:38
fishbulbi can read them i think19:38
siceloyou *can* change the setting in MicroB, *with* the html-only view fishbulb19:38
sicelohttps://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/h/11mazx360zs44/?v=prfap19:39
sicelojust click settings :-/19:39
fishbulbserver not found19:43
siceloyou just have a bad Internet  connection, most likely19:45
fishbulbhey is a mobile ip address vulnerable19:45
fishbulbi have all bars19:45
fishbulb3.5g and full bars of reception19:47
fishbulbthis shit takes me back to 201619:47
fishbulbif i could time travel through irc and come out at my apartment then i would19:47
fishbulbbecause fuck this. you do n19:48
KotCzarnyah right, paranoid swearing guy19:48
fishbulbnot wwant to rely on the german state to save your ass if youre unemplloyed for any length of time19:48
sixwheeledbeastwell i suppose they have enough german unemployed people to look after?19:49
fishbulbthis shelter had police tape over one of the doors19:49
siceloon the matter of 2FA, does anyone know a good way to convert a really long Bas32 string to HEX? the OTP program available on N900 uses Hex, but most sites use Base3219:51
fishbulbif you lose a lease, they will provide you a roof, but it will make yiou sick19:51
fishbulbcockroaches and worse stuff. too many people crowded into a place not fit for dogs19:51
sixwheeledbeastWould a coach not be easier? Say Berlin to Amsterdam for 25E?19:51
siceloone of the mail accounts i've been fighting with uses a 410-character string!19:52
sixwheeledbeastOr if your brave thumb a ride down the A2? Not that i know other places well.19:52
fishbulbi had to get a text sent19:53
fishbulbthats days on a coach19:53
fishbulbhow much luggage can you take? i have a bicycle and some heavy bags19:53
fishbulbtoo much stuff.19:53
fishbulbi dont want to be murdered either.19:53
sixwheeledbeastYou ain't thumbing a ride with that much stuff then...19:55
fishbulbits like 80kg worth of everything i own.19:55
sixwheeledbeastWell its about 200E for flights so i was looking at options. I see no problem with a coach having luggage19:56
fishbulbnor unless a giant empty van picks me up. like the kind with no windows that you should get into19:56
fishbulbtwo hundred? man.19:57
sixwheeledbeastA quick search yes. tomorrow would be triple that19:58
sixwheeledbeastpossible due to short notice.19:58
sixwheeledbeastTrain seems to be the most popular at 60E but with 80kg of stuff maybe not...19:59
fishbulbi have nowhwere to stsay in nl either but at least am a citizen. maybe they have a similar deal with homeless shelters19:59
KotCzarnyswb: sometimes there are last minute dirt-cheap flight tickets available20:00
sixwheeledbeastfamily friends?20:00
KotCzarnyneed to camp at the airport for that tho20:00
fishbulbits a two thoudsand euro bike and around 70kg of bags. tools and stuff.20:00
sixwheeledbeasttrue I said a quick check on a compare site20:00
fishbulbfamily all dead20:00
fishbulbin that country anyway20:01
fishbulbis there some iind of bike storage because a hostel never takes a bike20:02
fishbulbthis is a mess. it doesnt take long to get into this situation. youd be shocked20:04
fishbulbisnt basically everyone in here german or near there20:05
sicelono, of course not20:06
sixwheeledbeaster no20:06
fishbulbthe main ones who made a lot of n900 apps20:08
fishbulbeuropean?20:08
sixwheeledbeastWouldn't there be a Dutch representative in Germany? TBH I would expect places like that to be in Berlin.20:08
siceloafrican20:08
fishbulbthey dont handle this20:10
fishbulbi can pay a coach or something20:10
fishbulbgerman actually offers to pay the airfare to get you out and away from the social security system20:11
fishbulbwithout a high level of german you are totally screwed for work anyway.20:13
fishbulbit takes more than half a year to learn that much german if youre good with language20:13
sixwheeledbeastSurely they would give you some advise on either getting home or where you can go at home.20:14
fishbulbjust like this place it only has to be a roof. once you  are out of the office the prtty beauraucrat doesnt care what happens20:16
fishbulbits just some idiot working a job they hate created by the government to employ people20:16
fishbulbeven if they see you as human they cant do anything about where you sleep20:17
fishbulbfirst cheapest result on google with a vacancy20:18
sixwheeledbeastIt would be my first attempt for information about getting home if I was in that situation.20:19
fishbulbseriously every squat ive seen is better than this place. all of them.20:19
fishbulbthey do not care20:21
fishbulbif it was some political asylum thing they might otherwise youre in for a loot of debt20:21
fishbulbwhats the coach site that you looked at?20:21
sixwheeledbeasthttps://www.goeuro.com/travel-search/results/1051129599/bus?locale=en20:29
fishbulbis goeuro good?20:31
fishbulbhow big is this screen20:34
sixwheeledbeastI believe it is a compare site? no idea. FlixBus will allow cycles and extra luggage at small extra charge. Some coach companies will not.20:35
fishbulbits not a giant bike but it is a bike20:37
fishbulbsending it isnt an option with no fixed address20:37
sixwheeledbeastcheckmybus.com seem like another compare site with more info on luggage20:40
fishbulbthanks20:42
fishbulbis the n900 just a linux tablet with a 3g device? if my ip is visible herecan some kali kid do the same stuff theyd do with a normal computer?21:30
KotCzarnysure21:30
KotCzarnybut difference being linux tablets usually run androids21:30
fishbulbbut this is full linux21:34
fishbulbfull but old linux21:34
KotCzarnyyes21:34
fishbulbhow do i even test for foul play on this21:35
APicHow would You make Your IP visible?21:43
fishbulbhow would i make it invisible21:45
APicUSB Networking?21:46
fishbulbusb networking with what21:55
APicWith something dark21:55
fishbulbwhat?21:58
APicAnything21:58
APicYou cannot see in the Dark21:59

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