libera/#maemo/ Sunday, 2018-07-29

WikiwideMy impression is that Stellarium continues to update position of stellar bodies, and redraw the sky, even when screen is locked/blacked out. Which drains battery.00:16
DocScrutinizerWikiwide: quite possible00:39
WikiwideAnd I would be glad if omweather automatically updated its data when device connects to Internet - just like telepathy and some other programs do. And omweather could be changed to blend in more - it depends on hildon and gtk, after all, no reason to look so different.00:42
Wikiwide/me should get around to coding, some time00:42
WikiwideAnd vim should lose its documentation - takes up space on device. But then, I could purge vim...00:44
Maxdamantus5 MiB? Doesn't seem very significant.00:47
Maxdamantusmaybe if it's on NAND.00:47
DocScrutinizererr, docpurge00:48
WikiwideMaxdamantus : Add three emails accounts, and one calendar sync with Microsoft, and you get home full. Especially with Stellarium data present.00:49
MaxdamantusOh right, the normal partitioning also has the tiny 2 GB or something home00:49
MaxdamantusIf you get rid of the FAT partition and use that space for /home instead it shouldn't be significant.00:51
MaxdamantusIf you need UMS functionality, can always just create a file on ext3 and expose that through g_file_storage00:51
* Maxdamantus does that for install disks, and ocassionally for transferring files to other people's computers (when they can't just access the files over some network or something)00:52
DocScrutinizerF U ssh!!!  >>debug1: Skipping ssh-dss key /home/jr/.ssh/id_dsa - not in PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes<<00:53
DocScrutinizerseems my N900 finally needs a 'modern' RSA key, eh? eh???00:55
* DocScrutinizer wonders why he didn't do this a 6 years ago already: cat /home/jr/.ssh/id_rsa.pub|iron900 "tee -a ~root/.ssh/authorized_keys"01:02
brolin_empeyOksanaa: If you cannot fix the software yourself then you should probably make your suggestions to the projects in question, such as on their issue tracker if they have one, instead of to this channel.13:13
sixwheeledbeastIt would update within an hour of connection anyway? I would prefer it to be an option myself as if your wlan or data is patchy updating everytime is just eating battery13:21
brolin_empeyI think I should finally take my retired, bulging smartphone batteries to a recycling depot because I just noticed today that one of my retired Galaxy Note 3 batteries has become extremely bulgy while sitting on the shelf in my apartment without air conditioning during the summer.  The temperature in my apartment this summer has reached at least 30°C.16:12
WikiwideWhat web browsers exist for maemo that are hildon-ised? And don't give the same "no common encryption algorithm(s)" error that MicroB does.23:20
WikiwidePreferably Qt-free and Python-free.23:20
sicelonone23:23
sicelothere aren't even non-hildonised ones afaik. of all n900/maemo problems in this day & age, browsing is the worst of them all23:25
siceloi use opera-mobile, fennec17/thumb, & microb. sometimes one of the works for a given site when the other(s) don't. then at times all don't23:26
sicelos/of the/of them/23:26
bencohthe qt-based ones could actually work assuming you rebuild qt against a newer openssl version23:27
bencohor you could use an http(s) proxy, compiled against a recent openssl version as well23:28
bencoh(that would work even with microb)23:28
WikiwideFennec17 I have as well, but it's very slow. And I don't think it works around this particular problem.23:33
Wikiwidebencoh : a browser doesn't have to be qt-based to be re-built against the latest openssl. Just, MicroB is too old to be the one that gets the re-build. Not unless this re-build would include a newer version of Gecko-Goanna engine, as well - and it would be massive work.23:35
WikiwideHow would proxy work for https?23:36
sixwheeledbeastjonwil has done the hard work for getting TLS 1.2 to work for Qt. MicroB is not that simple.23:43
brolin_empeyWikiwide: the N900 is very slow in my experience, which is part of the reason I stopped using it.23:44
brolin_empeyI took the bulging smartphone batteries to my local recycling depot.  The man working there seemed to not care that the batteries were bulging.  I recorded a video of the batteries to show how bulgy they are because it seemed difficult to show with a still image.23:46
sixwheeledbeasthttps://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=10035223:48
brolin_empeyHow do you run scp from bash if the destination file name contains parentheses?  I could not quickly find the answer so I worked around the problem by copying to a temporary remote file name without parentheses, then renaming the destination file on the remote host.23:48
sixwheeledbeastI would expect you could escape them like whitespace?23:53
sixwheeledbeastor enclose in single quotes?23:54

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