freenode/#maemo/ Thursday, 2018-07-26

Vooi wanna sell source code bot  scanner coded by me , by btc01:51
Vooi wanna sell source code bot  scanner coded by me , by btc02:13
Vooi wanna sell source code bot  scanner coded by me , by btc /j #ssd02:35
buZzVoo: this is not the place for it02:37
Voook sorry02:37
* Oksanaa agrees with trx, easier to find whole housing than just stylus, atm 02:58
* Oksanaa did 3D print Nokia N900 stylus, some time ago - fragile, but works, if I remember correctly. Just keep screen protector on N900.03:05
OksanaaThis one, probably
Oksanaa+Sigyn is needed on #kicad03:22
brolin_empeyI exchanged the Samsung UHD video monitor with TN panel for an LG UHD video monitor with IPS panel because TN panels suck.08:14
KotCzarnypoor wizzup17:50
KotCzarnyxes, seen the shipping?18:00
KotCzarnythey must be sending it on a pallet18:00
xesKotCzarny: how much is it asking for shipping (on your browser)?18:03
KotCzarnyfrom .it to .pl18:03
KotCzarnyso kinda off hook bat shit crazy18:04
sixwheeledbeastits italy shipping is expensive18:04
xesthey made some mistake :)18:04
KotCzarnyi can ship 1kg package to hongkong for 15eur18:04
KotCzarnywith insurance and delivery confirmation18:05
xesplease don't tell me what you are shipping to HK that weights 1KG18:05
KotCzarnybroken ssd18:06
KotCzarnywhat you had on mind?18:06
xesi really can't imagine anything of that volume that you could write about18:07
KotCzarnyanyway, never buy noname ssd from aliexpress18:08
KotCzarnyit worked almost exactly 1 month18:08
KotCzarnythen just disappeared from the system18:09
KotCzarnyand i didnt even made it do any hard work18:09
xesdon't worry, early intel ssd behave almost the same way ;)18:09
KotCzarnyjust filled it over 90%, then some garbage collection run started to get hairy, then after one freeze it just disappeared18:10
xesafter some time they swith to ZERO size "mode"18:10
KotCzarnynah, it doesnt even show as a device18:10
DocScrutinizer05bathtub steep way down to sink18:10
KotCzarnyunless you know some trick to do low level reset18:10
xescheck if there is PWM voltage adapter on board..18:11
KotCzarnyi dont want to open it, going to ship it back to get either replacement or refund18:11
KotCzarnybut tell me more in case i have similar situatio in the future18:11
xesssd power management is a mess and could produce high temperatures of power regulators (expecially if very cheap)18:13
xesor if you use msata with sata adapters, sata adapters usually have crap voltage regulators 5V -> 3.3V that burn very easily18:14
xesloosing great power since they are not pwm18:15
xesso, i would never buy a cheap ssd from aliexpress18:15
KotCzarnyin this case it looked more like buggy firmware issue tho18:16
xesi would suggest you to follow linux-ide vger mailing list to check how many patches/exceptions/white lists/black lists they add to adjust ssd power management of specific brand/models18:17
xes..and i never read about aliexpress nobrand ssd fixes18:18
KotCzarnyi suspect, still, that wouldnt explain total drive disappearance (tried direct in dock and via usb adapter)18:18
xesif ssd never switches to low power modes, temperature can become very high ..producing "surprises"18:19
KotCzarnyho hum18:20
KotCzarnyheat related death is plausible18:20
KotCzarnyespecially that nonames usually have faked smart and no thermal probe18:20
xesI would choose a refund..18:21
KotCzarnyalthough samsung 830 doesnt have thermal probe neither18:21
xesand 850/860 and also crucial receive one patch a week18:21
KotCzarnystill, that 830 works for a few years in the same laptop18:24
KotCzarnywhich says something about quality18:24
KotCzarnyis that list searchable?18:26
xescan you feel the taste of the breeze?18:27
xeszzzzzz/silence... trik trak/silence..18:28
KotCzarnygrind noise and mad termite attack noise?18:29
xeshe he ;)18:29
xesbut, still running18:29
KotCzarnysome drives also did bell like sounds when head was flying too far ;)18:29
xesyep!.. it's been years since last time i heard that!18:30
KotCzarnyi should also update the kernel in that laptop18:32
xesanyway, mixed technology drives were strange but in the deep there was a good idea18:32
KotCzarnynot necessarily, they probably suffer from both techs bugs18:33
xesit's hard to say i don't have sufficient failure/success numbers but have a laptop with only 1 ssd... is a pain. Only 1 hdd, is a bit slow18:36
KotCzarnyoptical bay adapter for 2nd hdd?18:37
xesthen if there is one..18:37
KotCzarnyyeah, i've learned today that lenove is still killing thinkpads quality18:37
KotCzarnyonly t430 has ultrabay18:38
KotCzarnyotherwise last ones were t500/t40018:38
xesmine T410 is still a reference but the x220 is always on18:40
KotCzarnyyou can go ghetto-drive-with-velcro-on-the-back-of-lcd-with-usb-adapter way18:40
xesor msata+hdd ;) i have to run. bbl18:41
sicelothis actually works fine for HOTP/TOTP ... only trick is to change the key from Base32 to Hex21:56
brolin_empeyKotCzarny: s/lcd/display/ because at least one ThinkPad model has an LED display instead of an LCD?23:48

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