| Kizano | ok... I'm confused... | 00:42 |
|---|---|---|
| Kizano | E: Couldn't find these debs: lvm2 xfsprogs tree libssl-dev nano software-properties-common command-not-found python-dev sudo debconf-utils syslog-ng-core unzip curl python-setuptools zip wget linux-headers-amd64 locales realpath e2fsprogs | 00:42 |
| Kizano | ^ when attempting to debootstrap devuan ... | 00:42 |
| gnarface | Kizano: most common causes are you are using the wrong mirror url or you're using an unpatched debian version of debootstrap | 00:42 |
| Kizano | root@localhost:/devuan $ debootstrap --version | 00:43 |
| Kizano | debootstrap 1.0.87+devuan1 | 00:43 |
| Kizano | :o | 00:43 |
| gnarface | Kizano: there's a slight chance you just got unlucky and hit a mirror that was currently in an update cycle though, so always try a second time | 00:43 |
| gnarface | (i'm assuming you remembered to run "apt-get update" first) | 00:44 |
| Kizano | ok, now that is weird... LoL - I get a different package list on each run xD | 00:44 |
| Kizano | doing `debootstrap` instead of an in-place upgrade with `apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade` | 00:45 |
| gnarface | yea... probably just the mirror having temporary fits. try deb.devuan.org, the mirror fan-out DNS entry | 00:45 |
| Kizano | okies | 00:46 |
| Kizano | isn't lvm2 part of ascii-main ? | 00:46 |
| gnarface | i'm not sure off the top of my head. you can check at pkginfo.devuan.org though | 00:47 |
| Kizano | says it came from Debian-main, so I assumed it would be the same. | 00:47 |
| gnarface | it should be, i just don't know for sure | 00:47 |
| gnarface | most the packages are the same | 00:47 |
| gnarface | i just don't keep an inventory in my head, and i also don't use lvm | 00:48 |
| Kizano | https://pkginfo.devuan.org/stage/ascii/ascii/lvm2_2.02.168-2.html | 00:48 |
| fsmithred | yes, lvm2 is in main | 00:48 |
| Kizano | using http://deb.devuan.org/ yeilds same result :/ | 00:48 |
| fsmithred | use pkgmaster.devuan.org and see if that works better | 00:50 |
| Kizano | aaah | 00:50 |
| fsmithred | for debootstrap and consequently live-sdk, deb.devuan wasn't working earlier this year | 00:50 |
| Kizano | it was `/devuan` as opposed to `/merged` | 00:50 |
| fsmithred | that'll help | 00:51 |
| Kizano | =) | 00:51 |
| nexgen | hello, does debian add more init systems? | 05:21 |
| nexgen | I see openrc and runit in Debian repo, not in Devuan | 05:21 |
| nexgen | is Devuan different anymore? | 05:22 |
| saptech | nexgen, I've read that it takes more work to setup openrc or runit with debian. From my understanding, debian doesn't install by default | 05:31 |
| nexgen | earlier Debian was bound to systemD very tightly | 05:31 |
| saptech | yes | 05:32 |
| nexgen | it was not possible to avoid it for many packages, did it change since that? | 05:32 |
| nexgen | was not possible to avoid systemD in Debian | 05:32 |
| nexgen | that is why I migrated to Devuan a year ago | 05:32 |
| saptech | I'm not sure. I've read one can use openrc but it takes work | 05:32 |
| nexgen | just apt-get work? a few of commands or recoding source of 300 packages ? :) | 05:33 |
| saptech | this may be good question to ask in #debian | 05:34 |
| nexgen | and why there is no Beowulf release files? | 05:34 |
| nexgen | ISO | 05:34 |
| gnarface | nexgen: beowulf isn't released yet, and the only people who have problems with openrc are the people trying to get it to run stand-alone. | 05:34 |
| gnarface | nexgen: (it runs along side sysvinit in debian and devuan) | 05:34 |
| gnarface | (note that's different from how gentoo's package is set up for it) | 05:35 |
| gnarface | nexgen: oh, scratch that. i just remembered people were having trouble running in lxc too | 05:37 |
| nexgen | I cannot understand, is Devuan any different from Debian anymore? | 05:38 |
| nexgen | #debian told me they are going to make systemD optional in sid | 05:39 |
| nexgen | if I understood correctly | 05:39 |
| Unit193 | That's not exactly what I said. | 05:39 |
| nexgen | then Devuan is still very useful | 05:40 |
| nexgen | I hate systemD | 05:40 |
| gnarface | nexgen: devuan is still different from debian, but it's probably worth noting that the intent was always to make as few changes as possible | 05:40 |
| Unit193 | I'm able to have a full Xfce desktop (policykit, etc) without systemd (presuming we can pretend udev isn't systemd) | 05:41 |
| gnarface | nexgen: and i did hear that some openrc work was making it back upstream. i wouldn't consider that a reason to panic. | 05:41 |
| nexgen | if I download all files and directories under https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEVUAN/ | 05:41 |
| nexgen | is these all file to secure me from Devuan mirrors be banned of offline sometimes? | 05:42 |
| nexgen | at least for ascii | 05:42 |
| nexgen | *are these | 05:42 |
| gnarface | i am not sure | 05:43 |
| gnarface | but most the packages actually come from devuan | 05:44 |
| gnarface | sorry, i mistyped; that should be most the packages actually come from debian | 05:44 |
| gnarface | so there's only two cases. either you get only the packages devuan changes, or you get literally all the packges. neither of these choices are probably what you want. | 05:46 |
| gnarface | (since there are terabytes of packges) | 05:46 |
| nexgen | I see how this merge works, just wonder if there is something else except https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEVUAN/ | 05:46 |
| gnarface | i'm not sure if that one contains security and volatile updates | 05:46 |
| gnarface | i think merged implies it does contain the debian packages, but even that i'm not 100% sure of, since they'd be served by redirect | 05:47 |
| nexgen | does apt-mirror work for Devuan? | 05:47 |
| gnarface | dunno that for sure either, but stuff like that, if it doesn't work, usually only takes a trivial change | 05:47 |
| nexgen | it downloaded about 150Gb | 05:48 |
| nexgen | I am not sure for which distro (deb or dev) and for which release | 05:48 |
| gnarface | someone was saying there's about 300 patched devuan packges | 05:48 |
| gnarface | so that sounds about right | 05:48 |
| gnarface | for just the devuan ones | 05:48 |
| nexgen | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEVUAN/ | 05:48 |
| nexgen | is only about 2.5 GB | 05:49 |
| gnarface | oh hmmm | 05:49 |
| gnarface | seems like that's not a way to get a full mirror then | 05:49 |
| gnarface | did you use wget -r? | 05:49 |
| nexgen | httrack | 05:49 |
| gnarface | maybe it just has a recursion limiter? | 05:49 |
| nexgen | it is a tested script to download whole website mirrors many times | 05:49 |
| gnarface | well | 05:50 |
| gnarface | if you want a mirror, there are instructions on how to make one | 05:50 |
| nexgen | Options1=" --depth=100 --tolerant --urlhack -u2 -%v2 --advanced-maxlinks=999999999 "; | 05:50 |
| nexgen | UserAgent1="Mozilla 1.0, Sparc, Solaris 23.54.34"; | 05:50 |
| nexgen | UserAgent2="Mozilla/5.0 (X11;U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.9.1) Gecko/20090624 Ubuntu/9.04 (jaunty) Firefox/3.5"; | 05:50 |
| nexgen | Options2=" --connection-per-second=50 --sockets=80 -s0 --keep-alive --display --verbose --advanced-progressinfo --disable-security-limits --near --clean "; | 05:50 |
| gnarface | but it is big, to have a full mirror | 05:50 |
| nexgen | httrack "$URL" -O "$Dir" -F "$UserAgent2" $Options1 $Options2; # -F "'$UserAgent'" | 05:50 |
| gnarface | any way to tell if it is hitting the limit on --depth? | 05:51 |
| gnarface | also, will it obey http redirects? | 05:51 |
| nexgen | I am not sure | 05:51 |
| gnarface | like, redirects that go to a different host | 05:51 |
| nexgen | counted only per file | 05:51 |
| nexgen | is there more depth than 100 per each file? | 05:52 |
| gnarface | seems unlikely but i try not to make assumptions | 05:52 |
| nexgen | will learn apt-mirror syntax, will play with it more, compare files with httracked from devuan | 05:53 |
| nexgen | and then we will have more details for a discussion | 05:53 |
| gnarface | oh, another thing is that might only be binary packages. there are source packages in the repo you need too if you're talking about a full mirror | 05:53 |
| gnarface | most people don't actually need a full mirror, most people get fine with a caching proxy | 05:54 |
| gnarface | *get by fine | 05:54 |
| nexgen | was looking for only binary packages yet | 05:56 |
| gnarface | you need to also consider which architectures you wannt | 05:57 |
| gnarface | want* | 05:57 |
| nexgen | yes | 05:57 |
| gnarface | there are packages for several cpu architectures as well as some generic ones that go with everything | 05:57 |
| nexgen | btw, are there any scripts like ARM SDK to rebuild whole Devuan from sources? | 05:58 |
| nexgen | may be in Gentoo | 05:58 |
| gnarface | yes, there's scripts | 05:58 |
| nexgen | are they available to public? | 05:58 |
| gnarface | of course. git.devuan.org | 05:58 |
| nexgen | excellent | 05:58 |
| gnarface | remember for beowulf while it's not stable yet, you just need "beowulf" but for ascii you need "ascii" "ascii-updates" and "ascii-security" | 05:59 |
| gnarface | well, technically you don't *need* "ascii-updates" and "ascii-security" but they come highly recommended | 06:00 |
| golinux | nexgen: This might clear some of the fog. https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan_mirror_walkthrough.txt | 06:00 |
| gnarface | thanks golinux | 06:00 |
| golinux | And this too: https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt | 06:00 |
| Unit193 | HUh, arctica-greeter and ayatana-indicator-session. | 06:02 |
| nexgen | very helpful, thanks | 06:03 |
| nexgen | can you please point me to the script to do the whole complete rebuild of the Devuan part of merged distro? | 06:03 |
| gnarface | it is in there somewhere, i don't know where it is myself | 06:04 |
| nexgen | which rebuilds everything Devuan related by running a single script | 06:04 |
| golinux | There are other ways to do it. That just explains how the Devuan repos are set up. | 06:04 |
| nexgen | is it done the same way as for Debian? | 06:04 |
| golinux | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7qE43KK5bY&feature=youtu.be&t=4976 | 06:04 |
| golinux | from the April conference. | 06:05 |
| golinux | And this is the merging magic: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla3 | 06:06 |
| nexgen | and a funny question is it possible to have systemD in Devuan if I need it sometimes for a software like MSSQL? :) | 06:06 |
| nexgen | most likely then I have to use Debian | 06:06 |
| golinux | If you want systemd, just use Debian. | 06:06 |
| nexgen | I prefer systemD free on all my hosts, but sometimes need some proprietary soft in a single vm | 06:07 |
| golinux | "need" is a very relative concept. | 06:07 |
| nexgen | I am used to MSSQL and DB2 | 06:07 |
| nexgen | and do not want to learn again to PostgreSQL | 06:08 |
| nexgen | though I even wrote some programs using PostgreSQL | 06:08 |
| gnarface | you can't run systemd in devuan without changing it back into debian | 06:08 |
| nexgen | I find these two proprietary DBMSes hardly to replace for myself | 06:08 |
| gnarface | and at that point you have a frankenstein system, which even debian would advise against | 06:09 |
| nexgen | :) | 06:09 |
| gnarface | being part debian and part devuan, this system will exist in two worlds, yet belong in neither | 06:09 |
| nexgen | btw, IBM DB2 v10.5 seems to not depend on systemD yet, it runs on Devuan fine | 06:09 |
| gnarface | and the next time you try a major upgrade, it will probably trash the install | 06:09 |
| nexgen | though not sure about recent versions of DB2 | 06:09 |
| golinux | Check the blacklist link above | 06:10 |
| nexgen | sure I will not try to use systemD in Devuan | 06:10 |
| golinux | And also here: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/ | 06:10 |
| nexgen | it would be silly | 06:10 |
| golinux | Indeed it would | 06:11 |
| nexgen | btw, how much Devuan is used in production? | 07:20 |
| nexgen | do you have some counter at repos about how much installations are done? | 09:11 |
| drawkula | https://popcon.devuan.org/ | 09:12 |
| drawkula | probably only a fraction of users installed the popularity contest program and activated it | 09:13 |
| drawkula | so probably there is no reliable estimation of installs | 09:13 |
| Centurion_Dan | nexgen: I have used Devuan in production across a number of internet facing servers and services for about 4 years. | 09:35 |
| nexgen | is it hard to find an admin job related to Devuan? | 09:38 |
| nexgen | may with development too (automation in mono, bash, etc.) | 09:39 |
| nexgen | I guess it may be possible to find admin jobs for Debian at first and then convert them to Devuan after permission received :)) | 09:40 |
| nexgen | so we will revert thing back as they were expected to be going before systemD attacl | 09:40 |
| nexgen | *attack | 09:41 |
| ErRandir | cd | 10:05 |
| xkr47 | drawkula, how is the "number of votes (recent usage)" counted? | 10:20 |
| drawkula | apt show popularity-contest | 10:21 |
| drawkula | that sends a list of installed packages/versions to the server | 10:21 |
| drawkula | I think it was invented by debian to select which packages should be on which install-CDs | 10:22 |
| drawkula | to increase the chance that a typical install would use only the 1st CD | 10:22 |
| xkr47 | nice | 10:22 |
| Centurion_Dan | nexgen: I think Devuan is very niche still, although the skills are transferrable. I've migrated some client systems from Debian, and built others from scratch. Some of them are former clients, and I don't know how much has changed since that contract finished. | 10:25 |
| fr33domlover | o/ | 15:06 |
| fr33domlover | I tried installing Devuan ascii with encryption+LVM, the resulting system fails to boot (it cant find root partition and never asks for dm-crypt password, just throws me into initramfs shell after a minute) | 15:07 |
| fr33domlover | Then I tried graphical install with plain default no-encryption partitioning, it works | 15:07 |
| * fr33domlover is unsure what to do; tried to inspect harddrive using Trisquel live system, but it didn't even recognize the harddrive | 15:09 | |
| fsmithred | fr33domlover, do you have a separate, unencrypted /boot partition, and is this bios or uefi? | 15:17 |
| fr33domlover | fsmithred, what I did is (1) choose guided partitioning with encrypted LVM (2) remove the home and root volumes and create new ones, because I want to have different sizes than the default (3) apply. So yeah there's 1M free space, then ESP partition, then /boot, then encrypted space with LVM home/root/swap inside it | 15:19 |
| fr33domlover | fsmithred, UEFI | 15:19 |
| fr33domlover | If it fails again I'll try the same except without changing sizes, just use default as is :p | 15:20 |
| fsmithred | I always use manual partitioning | 15:21 |
| fsmithred | encrypted with or without lvm can be tricky. I usually get it wrong a couple of times before I do it right. | 15:21 |
| fr33domlover | fsmithred, same for me, every time, but I'm never sure why it doesn't work | 15:22 |
| fsmithred | if it fails to boot after reinstall, don't wipe it. We can rescue it. | 15:22 |
| fsmithred | my theory on why it doesn't work is 'shitty ui' | 15:25 |
| fr33domlover | fsmithred, yay it worked!! The only different thing I did was to use graphical install (which means I didn't get to choose some stuff, e.g. LVM group name was chosen for me, and locale too) | 15:25 |
| fsmithred | ok | 15:25 |
| fsmithred | if it's lvm, you can change partition sizes pretty easily | 15:25 |
| fr33domlover | fsmithred, the UI is a bit weird but it looks like the weirdness is in how it works behind the scenes | 15:25 |
| fr33domlover | fsmithred, I did change them to my preferred size, graphical install let me do that ^_^ | 15:26 |
| fsmithred | yeah, it's a strange path you have to take | 15:26 |
| fsmithred | cool | 15:26 |
| fsmithred | changing partition sizes in a running system is an exercise in sweating bullets | 15:26 |
| fr33domlover | I'm glad it finally worked ^_^ without post installation hacks | 15:29 |
| fr33domlover | But also sad that it was so difficult | 15:29 |
| fr33domlover | I wish people could just install in <30 minutes | 15:29 |
| fsmithred | live-iso is about 10 minute install | 15:29 |
| fsmithred | but you don't get to choose packages | 15:29 |
| fr33domlover | fsmithred, yeah I mean a 10-minute install where you get to encrypt your stuff ^_^ | 15:30 |
| fr33domlover | Not sure why it's not the default yet in 2019! | 15:30 |
| fsmithred | live installer does encryption, but not lvm | 15:30 |
| fsmithred | can encrypt / and /home | 15:30 |
| fsmithred | with swap file on root partition | 15:31 |
| fsmithred | don't need encryption on your home computer unless you think someone will steal your hard drive | 15:31 |
| fsmithred | (or you think you might send it back to the factory) | 15:32 |
| fr33domlover | fsmithred, well you can never be sure, right? I carry my laptop with me to places, it has very personal stuff, I wouldn't want anyone having access to it | 15:32 |
| fsmithred | laptop should be encrypted | 15:33 |
| fsmithred | maybe booby-trapped, too | 15:33 |
| fr33domlover | fsmithred, there's also a weird issue where during shutdown it wais for encrypted volumes being busy, eventually giving up but it makes shutdown much slower | 15:53 |
| fr33domlover | Not urgent, I hope I can figure out this one too ^_^ | 15:53 |
| fsmithred | there are fixes for that | 15:53 |
| fsmithred | have to edit /lib/cryptsetup/cryptdisks-functions | 15:54 |
| fsmithred | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=11522#p11522 | 15:56 |
| fsmithred | might be cryptdisks.functions (they changed the name one way or the other) | 15:56 |
| fr33domlover | fsmithred, cool, I'll try. On there's something more annoying: When doing default UEFI boot, the thing I mentioned with root partition not found happens. The only way I get the system to boot is to keep the default boot mode as BIOS, press F12 on power-on, manually select devuan UEFI | 15:56 |
| fr33domlover | (I'm still testing to verify that this is what makes the difference) | 15:57 |
| fsmithred | which grub is installed? grub-efi or grub-pc? | 15:57 |
| fsmithred | and what kind of computer is it? (make/model) | 15:59 |
| fr33domlover | fsmithred, I think grub-efi but 1 sec will verify. Ah cool I don't have to switch to BIOS, I just need to press F12 and manually choose devuan (I also have usb stick inserted, maybe that confuses the laptop? I'll try without it) | 15:59 |
| fr33domlover | fsmithred, dell xps | 15:59 |
| fsmithred | ok, there might be some special instructions for that | 15:59 |
| fr33domlover | Hmmm nvm looks like I have to make BIOS mode the default | 15:59 |
| fr33domlover | (but use UEFI, chosen manually) | 16:00 |
| fr33domlover | fsmithred, debian wiki doesnt say anything about that | 16:00 |
| fsmithred | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2330 | 16:00 |
| fr33domlover | Thanks fsmithred, I'll try whatit says there | 16:04 |
| fr33domlover | Hm yes, super weird. (1) Set the default boot mode to BIOS (2) Restart, press F12, manually choose devuan UEFI boot. *Now*, when devuan boots, it does find the encrypted volume and ask me for its password | 16:05 |
| fr33domlover | At least I can consistently boot now haha | 16:06 |
| fr33domlover | I'll look into making this work without the weirdness | 16:06 |
| fr33domlover | o/ | 22:54 |
| fr33domlover | Right after installation I run wicd-curses and it fails with "unknown locale en_IL" | 22:55 |
| fr33domlover | How do I fix that | 22:55 |
| fr33domlover | I tried dpkg-reconfigure locales but didn't help | 22:55 |
| drawkula | in a new shell? | 22:56 |
| fr33domlover | drawkula, yup | 22:56 |
| fr33domlover | drawkula, I mean tried to log out, log in again, still got the error | 22:57 |
| fr33domlover | It did say "generating locale en_IL.UTF-8" but wicd-curses can't find it, it seems | 22:58 |
| Akuli | maybe try to run wicd-curseswith some other locale? | 22:58 |
| Akuli | $ LANG=C.UTF-8 wicd-curses | 22:58 |
| FatPhil | any ideas how to diagnose why my (MSI Cubie) case fan refuses to spin down to its lowest setting (which might well be off, it's practicall silent when behaving) | 22:59 |
| FatPhil | top says nothing's above a fraction of a %, powertop says the cores/CPUs are 99% idle. | 23:00 |
| fr33domlover | Akuli, that works but I do want programs to work with the actual locale I chose :) | 23:01 |
| Akuli | fr33domlover, what is the output of 'locale' on your system? | 23:01 |
| specing | FatPhil: probably a hardware failsafe | 23:02 |
| fr33domlover | Akuli, LANG=en_IL LANGUAGE=en_IL:en and then lots of other stuff set to "en_IL" | 23:03 |
| Akuli | hmm why does that not end with .UTF-8 | 23:03 |
| Akuli | my system gives LANG=fi_FI.UTF-8 etc | 23:03 |
| fr33domlover | Akuli, idk that's what the devuan installer did, I wondered too why it's like that | 23:03 |
| fr33domlover | Maybe that's the problem? | 23:04 |
| Akuli | what does this do? python3 -c 'import locale; locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, "en_IL.UTF-8")' | 23:04 |
| FatPhil | specing: yeah, I'm just trying to sniff around the kernel's vfs's looking for something that looks like it might reflect component temperatures | 23:04 |
| fr33domlover | Yup, LANG=en_IL.UTF-8 wicd-curses works | 23:04 |
| drawkula | \o/ | 23:05 |
| Akuli | hmm | 23:05 |
| specing | FatPhil: install lm-sensors, then do $ sensors in terminal | 23:05 |
| Akuli | fr33domlover, add 'export LANG=en_IL.UTF-8' to your .profile :D | 23:05 |
| specing | should print all them temperatures | 23:05 |
| fr33domlover | Akuli, where do I add it to make it safely work across the whole system, all users? | 23:06 |
| Akuli | hmm i found /etc/default/locale | 23:06 |
| Akuli | and a command named update-locale | 23:07 |
| fr33domlover | I found a file /etc/default/locale but it seems auto generated | 23:07 |
| Akuli | i wonder if the dpkg command calls update-locale | 23:07 |
| drawkula | in /etc/locale.gen some entries end in .UTF-8 and some don't and I dont see why | 23:08 |
| drawkula | e.g. en_IL vs en_NZ | 23:08 |
| Akuli | /etc/locale.gen seems like the right place | 23:08 |
| drawkula | the uncommented ones are the ones to generate | 23:09 |
| Akuli | hmm this is weird | 23:09 |
| Akuli | why does the name not end in .UTF-8 lol | 23:09 |
| Akuli | i wonder what would break if you added .UTF-8 at the end | 23:09 |
| FatPhil | specing: coretemp-isa-0000 is hottest at a modest 54C ("high"=105C) | 23:11 |
| Akuli | there is fi_FI.UTF-8 in /etc/locale.gen but there is no /usr/share/i18n/locales/fi_FI.UTF-8 | 23:11 |
| Akuli | there is however /usr/share/i18n/locales/fi_FI | 23:11 |
| Akuli | so it might actually work if you just add .UTF-8 | 23:11 |
| fr33domlover | I added it in /etc/locale.gen | 23:12 |
| fr33domlover | But LANG=en_IL.UTF-8 <program> was already working | 23:12 |
| James1138 | What about manually upgrading wicd-curses? https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=wicd-curses | 23:12 |
| fr33domlover | I just need to set en_IL.UTF-8 to be the system locale instead of en_IL | 23:13 |
| fr33domlover | Where do I change that? ^_^ | 23:13 |
| James1138 | ok | 23:13 |
| golinux | fr33domlover: Just curious and possibly irrelevant but do you have any ".gmo" files on your system? | 23:13 |
| Akuli | what are .gmo files? | 23:13 |
| moriton | I'm upgrading to Beowulf. The GRUB installer complains that /usr/share/locale/bg.gmo can't be copied to /boot/grub/locale/bg.mo since it's a catalog, and that GRUB therefore can't be installed. Since I already have a version of GRUB installed, should I continue anyway? | 23:13 |
| golinux | Akuli: https://dev1galaxy.org/znclog/?tz=-900&all=y&T=[23:31:25]&I2RldnVhbi1pbmZyYS8yMDE5LTA4LTA5LmxvZwo=#T | 23:14 |
| golinux | moriton: ^^^ | 23:15 |
| golinux | There is discussion of that elsewhere also. | 23:15 |
| drawkula | I emptied /boot/grub/locale/ and then reinstalled grub | 23:15 |
| drawkula | maybe make a complete backup of /boot before this | 23:16 |
| moriton | I'll try that. | 23:16 |
| fr33domlover | Yay problem solved, dpkg-reconfigure let me set system locale to en_IL.UTF-8 and now wicd-curses works | 23:19 |
| moriton | drawkula: What command do I use to reinstall grub? | 23:24 |
| drawkula | sudo grub-install /dev/yourHD | 23:24 |
| drawkula | but look at the manpage 1st | 23:25 |
| drawkula | I never needed more than the arg for the disk. but I dont have ÜFI or other magic here | 23:26 |
| drawkula | or reinstall all grub related packages | 23:26 |
| drawkula | then the installer questions should reappear | 23:27 |
| moriton | So if I just remove all the .gmo dirs from /usr/share/locale it should work? | 23:31 |
| drawkula | just try... you have a backup | 23:33 |
| drawkula | I think I emptied /boot/grub/locale | 23:34 |
| drawkula | then grub-install, reboot | 23:34 |
| drawkula | and then reinstalled all grub packages | 23:35 |
| drawkula | to have exactly beowulf's stuff in there | 23:35 |
| golinux | Another testimonial: grub threw errors while trying to run grub-install. It complained about [locale].gmo directories in '/usr/share/locale'. I looked up those directories using apt-file, but no packages were responsible for them. I deleted all the [locale].gmo directories in /usr/share/locale and grub was happy and worked fine. I still don't know what created those directories. This warrants further investigation | 23:35 |
| moriton | All right. I'll try a reboot now. | 23:36 |
| drawkula | golinux: I threw away stuff that grub-install wanted to overwrite, not files registered with the packaging system | 23:37 |
| rrq | golinux: that "gmo" thing is fixed (it was down to ConsoleKit2), and the patch is now in unstable. | 23:37 |
| drawkula | o.O | 23:40 |
| moriton | Ayup, that worked fine. | 23:40 |
| drawkula | rrq: has the long explanations | 23:40 |
| golinux | He always does. :D | 23:42 |
| golinux | moriton: While you were away: | 23:43 |
| golinux | <rrq> golinux: that "gmo" thing is fixed (it was down to ConsoleKit2), and the patch is now in unstable. | 23:43 |
| golinux | I'm just the librarian . . . | 23:43 |
| moriton | Guess I just had poor timing, then | 23:43 |
| golinux | irc can move fast | 23:44 |
| golinux | Anyway, you should probably upgrade the patch | 23:45 |
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