enyc | Hrrm, what testing useful for Beowulf ? beta testing of this ready? | 09:12 |
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oko | Hello! | 15:20 |
akaizen | hi any updates on 3.0 release | 18:32 |
akaizen | debian 10 / buster became stable today | 18:33 |
fsmithred | we should have installer isos soon-ish | 18:34 |
fsmithred | betas | 18:34 |
akaizen | egg-cellent, very excited | 18:35 |
MinceR | "stable" | 18:35 |
akaizen | what can i do to help get them proven and "stable" faster? | 18:35 |
fsmithred | test them when they become available | 18:36 |
akaizen | sounds good, got a nas, firewall and webserver | 18:36 |
akaizen | will verify on a test server first before moving to prod | 18:37 |
fsmithred | you could test upgrades and migrations if you want | 18:37 |
fsmithred | just don't do it on a system you care about | 18:37 |
akaizen | i have a config system so its easier to do clean installs | 18:37 |
akaizen | point tftpd to a new iso :) | 18:38 |
fsmithred | the upgrades I've done from ascii to beowulf were easy. | 18:38 |
akaizen | cool, sadly my systems arnt running devuan at the moment | 18:39 |
akaizen | a mix of ubuntu, debian, arch and gentoo | 18:39 |
fsmithred | if you have a spare partition or space for a VM try migrating from debian stretch or buster to devuan beowulf | 18:40 |
akaizen | sure, all i have to do is point to the dvuan apt mirrors and run dist-upgrade ? | 18:40 |
fsmithred | Pretty much that. There are some guides here: https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/ | 18:41 |
akaizen | k i can give that a try, where should i post logs and submit any bug reports | 18:41 |
fsmithred | dev1galaxy.org forum or dng mailing list | 18:42 |
fsmithred | for now | 18:42 |
fsmithred | package bugs go to bugs.devuan.org | 18:42 |
akaizen | cool, is there a offline server install image, the wiki/site says netinstall but that seems silly for cluster installs | 18:43 |
akaizen | is the dvd iso appropriate? | 18:43 |
fsmithred | no install isos yet | 18:43 |
fsmithred | you can use an ascii netinstall iso and do one of two things: either install base system and upgrade or choose expert install and you get to select beowulf. (I think that's in the current netinstall isos) | 18:44 |
akaizen | ok, which one i should look out for | 18:44 |
fsmithred | what do you mean? | 18:45 |
fsmithred | if you already have ascii dvd, you can use that | 18:45 |
akaizen | i dont run a local apt mirror so a netinstall would waste bandwidth/time | 18:46 |
akaizen | yea i figured the dvd would have most everything for a server install | 18:46 |
fsmithred | if you want beowulf, everything will have to be downloaded (a netinstall) | 18:46 |
akaizen | ill wait for the isos :) | 18:47 |
fsmithred | or cheat and use one of the derivative distros that have beowulf isos | 18:47 |
akaizen | downstream already has isos ? seems a bit out of order | 18:47 |
fsmithred | yeah, but easy to do | 18:48 |
fsmithred | either through upgrade, debootstrap install, live-sdk build | 18:48 |
fsmithred | probably some other ways to get there, too. | 18:48 |
fsmithred | some of us are impatient | 18:48 |
akaizen | haha i know the feeling | 18:50 |
enyc | fsmithred: testing new isos yes, but whta about testing update of ascii to beowulf on MATE desktop ? particuar fairuere erros with updates of elogind and usb automating and udev stuff etc.? | 18:52 |
enyc | uerm, wondering if there are particular areas in the latter which might be suspect of issues on upgrades | 18:53 |
fsmithred | enyc, yeah, if you test mate upgrades, please report so others will know what to look out for. | 18:55 |
fsmithred | and maybe there are bugs we can fix. | 18:56 |
fsmithred | There might already be some discussions about that at the forum. I have a tendency to ignore the mate threads. | 18:56 |
akaizen | whats the u in uva? | 18:56 |
akaizen | er vua | 18:56 |
fsmithred | unix | 18:57 |
fsmithred | Veteran Unix Admins | 18:57 |
akaizen | ty | 18:57 |
fsmithred | bbl | 19:00 |
akaizen | thanks fsmithred, see you on the forums | 19:05 |
enyc | fsmithred: not found anything, just .. but have found your comment about beowulf stable enough to move to | 19:10 |
enyc | Hrrm | 19:27 |
enyc | https://devuan.org/os/ In my view could do with link to the whateever-it-is page that shows you what packages devuan customizes/patches | 19:27 |
enyc | this leads to related question, what is the state in beowulf with additional packages not yet sorted-out, are they to be held at older ascii versions, or won't install because of broken dependencies, or what will happen in practice for beowulf-unfinished? | 19:28 |
golinux | enyc: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages | 20:02 |
golinux | The beta release of beowulf will find the remaining bugs. When stable is released it will be "finished". | 20:04 |
phogg | golinux: is that page supposed to show anything? Or is most stuff hidden from anonymous? | 20:11 |
phogg | golinux: nevermind, figured it out. Too much aggressive JS blocking. | 20:25 |
enyc | golinux: =) | 23:28 |
enyc | golinux: still, interesting ed in ... what happes if i upgrade into beowulf now | 23:29 |
enyc | golinux: might i end up with systemd-dependent packages or what? | 23:29 |
* enyc backing-up disk-image right now ...... ;p | 23:29 |
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