fsmithred | also missing a "fi" in the one I pasted | 00:08 |
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fsmithred | right before the close of the function | 00:09 |
fsmithred | time for food. bbiab | 00:09 |
jiefk | definitely something fishy here. | 00:09 |
jiefk | the boot delay comes back now ¬¬ | 00:09 |
concatime | The expert installer requires a netmask. From my VPS provider, it’s "64" | 00:12 |
concatime | but the installer does not aloud me to enter only this | 00:12 |
fsmithred | usually it uses dhcp | 00:12 |
fsmithred | unless you say you want to set up network manually | 00:13 |
concatime | I want a manual setup | 00:13 |
fsmithred | I don't think 64 is enough for a netmask | 00:13 |
fsmithred | usually it's 255.255.255.0 | 00:13 |
concatime | https://bobcares.com/wp-content/uploads/vultr_ipv6-768x188.png | 00:13 |
fsmithred | I know nothing of ipv6 | 00:14 |
concatime | I’m new too :) | 00:14 |
concatime | I will look in debian channel | 00:16 |
jiefk | fsmithred: bed time here. I'll look more at this tomorrow. GN ! | 00:18 |
fsmithred | g'night jiefk | 00:22 |
xrogaan | fsmithred: do you know if deb.devuan function properly yet again? | 01:53 |
xrogaan | and if there is a place to find more about the state of the different broken stuff when they do get broken? | 01:53 |
golinux | xrogaan: dev1galaxy.org, devuan channels here (link to logs is in the channel topic), bugs.devuan.org and the | 02:03 |
golinux | I think the repos are OK now but some mirrors are doing strange things. | 02:03 |
xrogaan | what is dng used for then? | 02:04 |
golinux | Sometimes stuff lands there too. | 02:04 |
golinux | It's an all purpose meeting place but has been a ghost town lately. | 02:06 |
xrogaan | I don't go on the forums, it's annoying to filter through the irrelevant stuff. | 02:06 |
golinux | All the devuan channels have been pretty quiet. d1g is probably the most active. | 02:06 |
xrogaan | Well, summer and all :) | 02:06 |
golinux | DNG can be worse. | 02:06 |
golinux | Probably | 02:07 |
xrogaan | but I don't have to fire up my browser to get the info | 02:07 |
xrogaan | it just gets mailed to me. | 02:07 |
golinux | Info is usually passed on from d1g to the dev channels. Sometimes from this channel. | 02:07 |
xrogaan | I don't know what d1g means | 02:08 |
onefang | I'm working on a tool to probe the mirror system and make it easier for mirror admins to figure out what's wrong, so they can hopefully fix it. | 02:08 |
golinux | The devs don't really hang out much on DNG. Some are not even subscribed. | 02:08 |
golinux | dev1galaxy | 02:09 |
xrogaan | I don't like forums, the design of the tool forces me to remember to check it out every now and then. I usually can't remember. | 02:10 |
xrogaan | I just forget they exists. | 02:11 |
rrq | xrogaan: there's also a twitter Devuan feed... ;) | 02:13 |
rrq | or maybe it's called "Devuan twitter feed" | 02:14 |
Nematocyst | I solved the problem with dbus updates breaking my DE. turns out the helper needed a different group than messagebus. that was because it was group 104 and /etc/passwd for it listed its GID as 108 which is mlocate. so all my dbus update issues were from a bad passwd entry for messagebus | 02:15 |
jiefk | fsmithred: I don't understand why theere if an `ifup... && ` command in the start case statement and an ifup command in the ifup_hotplug function :/ (the patch from Didier removes the ifup command through) | 10:13 |
jiefk | Fffffffuuuu | 11:30 |
jiefk | I'll bang my head on the wall there and I'll come back later | 11:31 |
jiefk | I wrote wlanO instead of wlan0 in my interfaces file :/ | 11:32 |
jiefk | can't see the difference? -- Look again | 11:32 |
jiefk | Now my laptop brings up wifi without locking boot sequence :) | 11:33 |
specing | don't use interfaces jiefk | 11:38 |
specing | use iproute2 commands directly, that way your network is portable between distros | 11:38 |
jiefk | oh | 11:38 |
jiefk | specing: hi we are trying, with fsmithred and others to "debug" boot lock due to network interfaces waiting to be bring up. | 11:40 |
jiefk | see https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=15493#p15493 | 11:40 |
jiefk | the init.d/networking script is a nightmare :/ | 11:40 |
jiefk | so far, I kind of rewrote the ifup_hotplug() function to be simpler to work with, and I think I got things to work again. | 11:42 |
jiefk | I'll check iproute2 to see if we can replace things in init.d/networking. | 11:43 |
jiefk | iproute2 IS NOT A STANDARD TOOL IN dEVUAN ? | 11:44 |
jiefk | sorry caps locked... | 11:44 |
jiefk | oops sorry, it provides /sbin/ip | 11:45 |
jiefk | which is used in the networking script | 11:45 |
specing | >_> | 11:47 |
specing | just use iproute2 | 11:48 |
specing | I seriously doubt there is anything in the networking script that cannot be done easier with iproute2 and some cat into resolv.conf | 11:49 |
jiefk | https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line : Do the `ip a` and `ip link set wlan0 up` already ise the ip command from the iproute2 pkg ? | 11:53 |
jiefk | also iproute2 is already installed on Devuan (beowulf at least) | 11:54 |
jiefk | fsmithred: we can replace the `ifquery` (ifupdown pkg) with `ip a` (iproute2 pkg) and extract interfaces with sed or awk ? | 12:02 |
specing | jiefk: why do you want to extract interfaces? | 12:02 |
jiefk | dunno ? it's written as this in init.d/networking :/ | 12:03 |
jiefk | I'm not the original author of this script | 12:03 |
jiefk | I don't want to break things | 12:03 |
jiefk | but very granted, this script is a spaghetti plate... | 12:04 |
jiefk | then | 12:05 |
jiefk | log_action_end_msg $? | 12:05 |
jiefk | else | 12:05 |
jiefk | log_action_end_msg $? | 12:05 |
jiefk | fi | 12:05 |
jiefk | for example ¬¬ | 12:05 |
specing | you know what | 12:05 |
specing | stop looking at that spaghetti | 12:06 |
jiefk | :) | 12:06 |
specing | open a tutorial on iproute2 | 12:06 |
specing | and implement everything you want to do with that | 12:06 |
jiefk | I know , but see, this script does important things in the system (network is an inportant piece, and I'm no coder... plus NFS or SAMBA checks, things I won't be able to check myself) | 12:09 |
jiefk | important* | 12:09 |
jiefk | Plus we can't simply ignore /etc/network/interfaces, nor /etc/default/networking out of the blue | 12:11 |
specing | I can | 12:13 |
jiefk | *G* What gives ? I completely removed the networking script, and I still have wlan0 up on next reboot!! | 12:31 |
jiefk | something is running wpa_supplicant at boot | 12:32 |
rrq | with "allow-hotplug" in /etc/networking/interfaces, the configuration of the interface is done by the hotplug handler, aka (e)udev, and not the networking script | 12:38 |
rrq | actual script in /lib/udev/ | 12:39 |
jiefk | now now thanks rrq :) | 12:40 |
jiefk | I'll look into it thanks :) | 12:40 |
jiefk | (so basically, the networking script in init.d is useless ?) | 12:40 |
specing | spaghetti networking | 12:42 |
rrq | the init networking script deals with the "auto" interfaces, and gets invoked (orderly) in the second boot-up phase | 12:42 |
rrq | normally no more than three competotors for raising the interfaces: (e)udev, init networking, and network manager (eg wicd) | 12:45 |
rrq | competitors | 12:45 |
rrq | most systems would live happier with a single one, but what 's the use of a wheel if you can't reinvent it? | 12:46 |
fsmithred | jiefk, I think the output of ip a is too ugly to extact anything. | 13:11 |
specing | fsmithred: you can try ip -json ... | 13:20 |
fsmithred | Option "-json" is unknown, try "ip -help". | 13:44 |
jiefk | fsmithred: ip a | awk -F':' '/mtu/&&$0=$2' | 13:54 |
specing | fsmithred: maybe your iproute2 is too old | 13:55 |
specing | fsmithred: mine has it | 13:55 |
fsmithred | maybe. I'm on jessie right now. | 13:55 |
fsmithred | -s does nothing, but -o helps | 13:56 |
specing | I tested on Gentoo | 13:56 |
fsmithred | so like, 5 or 6 years newer software | 13:56 |
specing | nah, Gentoo is getting outdated | 13:57 |
specing | its a dying distro | 13:58 |
fsmithred | really? | 13:58 |
specing | I think so, yes | 13:58 |
fsmithred | jiefk, I tested a usb wireless dongle and it didn't get an address when I hotplugged it | 13:58 |
specing | killed by politics | 13:59 |
fsmithred | yuk | 13:59 |
specing | my contributions to Gentoo on January are still waiting to be accepted | 13:59 |
jiefk | fsmithred: sorry I abandonned. Reverted everything to pristine installation and tweaked interface to remove everything but lo . Now my network is managed by connman. Sorry again but since yesterday, I have not move a single step. | 14:08 |
fsmithred | np, I switched back to wicd. | 14:08 |
fsmithred | we didn't come up with anything better than what was already there | 14:09 |
onefang | Wicd works fine for me for WiFi to. | 14:10 |
onefang | It just upsets etckeeper, coz every time I boot, wicd decides to rewrite it's config file, changing the order of the lines without changing the actual config details. | 14:11 |
fsmithred | which config file? | 14:11 |
onefang | /etc/wicd/wireless-settings.conf | 14:13 |
onefang | dhcphostname = onefang | 14:14 |
onefang | bssid = 90:72:82:2D:3D:A7 | 14:14 |
onefang | -ip = None | 14:14 |
onefang | +postdisconnectscript = None | 14:14 |
onefang | dns_domain = None | 14:14 |
onefang | gateway = None | 14:14 |
onefang | use_global_dns = False | 14:14 |
onefang | encryption = True | 14:14 |
onefang | -postdisconnectscript = None | 14:14 |
onefang | +ip = None | 14:14 |
onefang | beforescript = None | 14:14 |
onefang | hidden = False | 14:14 |
onefang | Every. Single. Fucking. Time. | 14:14 |
fsmithred | would it help to make it a symlink to somewhere outside /etc? | 14:15 |
onefang | I'm tempted to .gitignore it. Bet the point of etckeeper is to track real changes to anything in /etc. Wicd has no business changing things like that. | 14:15 |
onefang | If I change it, I want it tracked. | 14:16 |
onefang | Wicd is wicked. | 14:16 |
fsmithred | it also stores connection info in /var | 14:17 |
fsmithred | in /var/lib/wicd/configurations/ | 14:18 |
onefang | For instance if bssid changes, that has to be tracked by etckeeper. | 14:18 |
onefang | Maybe I could pass that file through sort at each boot? Doesn't seem to matter what order things are in. lol | 14:18 |
jiefk | care to give connman a shot ? | 14:19 |
onefang | Everything else about wicd suits me fine. | 14:19 |
fsmithred | I might try it at some point. | 14:19 |
onefang | And when I get fibre later this year, I'l not care about WiFi. B-) | 14:20 |
fsmithred | fiber in your house? | 14:20 |
onefang | Fibre to the curb. | 14:20 |
onefang | I used to have fibre to the bedroom, but I had to move. No fibre available here yet. | 14:21 |
onefang | I've seen them pulling fibre nearby. Sooon. | 14:22 |
fsmithred | need more coffee... brb | 14:22 |
fsmithred | Thunderstorm and party to go to. bbl. | 20:03 |
drawkula | i can haz thunderstorm too, plz? | 21:03 |
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