xrogaan | same as debian | 00:04 |
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Xenguy | AEonFyr: Thanks for those instruction, I've got them in my hip pocket now | 02:06 |
Xenguy | *instructions | 02:06 |
Xenguy | A question: | 02:07 |
Xenguy | http://preview.tinyurl.com/yyjgxhgk | 02:07 |
Xenguy | ^^ Safe | 02:07 |
Xenguy | (And a Merry Summer Solstice to one and all) | 02:18 |
Xenguy | Last pastebin attempt is a wash; let's try again: | 02:21 |
Xenguy | http://preview.tinyurl.com/y53ef22g | 02:21 |
stiltr | I would assume that would be the naming convention, yes. (Assuming the u at the end was just a typo) | 02:39 |
Xenguy | Thanks for weighing in stiltr | 02:42 |
stiltr | No problem! https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#version may shed some light on the naming convention | 02:48 |
Xenguy | Looks like you RTFM; thanks again | 02:49 |
stiltr | : ) | 02:49 |
roarde | I have the barest of installs using the netinstall iso. How can I set the cpu frequency? | 19:59 |
jelly | roarde: which cpu is it? | 20:30 |
jelly | grep 'model name' /proc/cpuinfo|head -n1 | 20:30 |
roarde | Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU T2390 @ 1.86GHz | 20:31 |
roarde | Anyone know if cpufrequtils is available on the netinstall iso? I bypassed setting up a remote repo. | 20:31 |
jelly | Merom generation | 20:32 |
jelly | roarde: I don't remember about that old hardware, see if "modprobe acpi-cpufreq" makes /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ directory appear | 20:33 |
roarde | I have the devuan install mounted under a different OS. | 20:34 |
roarde | It's a linux, and I have the directory here. | 20:35 |
roarde | So just write "scaling_max_freq"? | 20:36 |
jelly | if it's mounted under a different linux you're running a different kernel with its own different drivers | 20:37 |
roarde | Right. I'd boot the devuan and do that. | 20:37 |
jelly | everything under /sys (and /proc) is virtual files, generated by current booted kernel | 20:37 |
roarde | right | 20:37 |
jelly | however what you _can_ do is see which cpufreq driver is active | 20:37 |
roarde | How would I change the frequency? | 20:38 |
jelly | cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_driver | 20:38 |
jelly | you'd change the max and min frequency by writing into scaling_max_freq and scaling_min_freq IIRC | 20:39 |
roarde | acpi-cpufreq on this side | 20:39 |
roarde | alright, got it. thanks. | 20:39 |
jelly | good, so make sure the same one is loaded when booted in devuan | 20:39 |
jelly | you can also look at "lsmod" output right now to see if there's any other related kernel module loaded | 20:40 |
jelly | your cpu has 2 cores and no hyperthreading, so there will probably be cpu0 and cpu1 under /sys/devices/system/cpu/ to get/set settings | 20:42 |
roarde | Right. Even though they can't actually be set separately. | 20:42 |
roarde | Well, it can be set but only one is really effective. | 20:43 |
_abc_ | Okay, this is weird, I used aptitude to install the updated new firefox on ascii, and it installed a new kernel too. This was not required by me and did not appear in the selected co-dependency list, except it did. Was a new kernel image pushed together with the new firefox esr release? | 22:27 |
_abc_ | As a dependency?! | 22:27 |
_abc_ | Hello? Does anyone know the answer to my question please? | 22:28 |
_abc_ | The kernel update appears insignificant | 22:28 |
_abc_ | vmlinuz-4.9.0-6 to -8 | 22:29 |
_abc_ | Was this a required update due to firefox upgrade? I have a doubt? | 22:29 |
filipdevuan_ | oh it's a shame that nobody can answer your question ;/ | 22:29 |
filipdevuan_ | have you checked pkgbuild?? | 22:29 |
_abc_ | No, how do I do that. | 22:29 |
rwp | I suggest looking in the package changelog to see what changed for that release. (Hopefully this is right: zless /usr/share/doc/linux-image-4.9.0-9-amd64/changelog.Debian.gz but change the name to match your kernel.) | 22:31 |
Centurion_Dan | _abc_: how did you update | 22:32 |
rwp | The most recent kernel upgrades on all distros included a fix for the remote trigger of a kernel panic exploiting a bug with selective acknowledgement. So you probably want it. | 22:33 |
_abc_ | Centurion_Dan: aptitude, selected firefox for reinstall, 5 dependencies were lit, I did not notice the 5th was the kernel image. I hit g and I caught it scrolling by updating grub etc. | 22:36 |
_abc_ | So I did not actively select anything other than firefox for reinstall, pressing '+' once on it and nothing else | 22:37 |
_abc_ | Reading the package changelog, I do not see anything which would mandate a high urgency kernel upgrade there. | 22:37 |
_abc_ | The SACK exploit is not relevant, the machine never faces the internet directly, 2 firewalls in between usually. | 22:37 |
_abc_ | NAT etc | 22:38 |
_abc_ | Also the package changelog is huge, is it cumulative? Do I read only the top change? | 22:38 |
_abc_ | So does one consider this behavior normal? Is it possible for updates to be pushed through aptitude by making them a dependency of something else? This is what I believe I saw. | 22:42 |
_abc_ | ?? | 22:43 |
_abc_ | So, seriously, how did those options get set upon only upgrading firefox? Has anyone else seen such a thing, stuff highlighted as dependency with firefox esr upgrade? | 22:49 |
_abc_ | Where do I look to see the dependency list aptitude sees when trying to load that package pleasE? | 22:50 |
* rwp never uses aptitude so has no info to contribute about it | 22:56 | |
_abc_ | I hope this was not some crazy push exploit. Aptitude never remembers selected packages between sessions? Or does it? | 22:59 |
_abc_ | Ok, so aptitude does remember package selections between sessions, AND I confirmed that some packages are written such that dependencies are selected forward (when selecting a parent for install), and does /not/ deselect on "cancel selection" of parent. Iow the upgrade may have been pushed in when I worked on other aspects of the system with aptitude some time ago. This is dangerous. | 23:04 |
_abc_ | So this would explain my experience. | 23:05 |
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