_x0r_ | hello | 03:07 |
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* _x0r_ wants to have devuan instead of debian… | 03:08 | |
_x0r_ | is that possible on a remote way? | 03:08 |
DonkeyHotei | from what version of debian? | 03:09 |
DonkeyHotei | jessie? or stretch? | 03:09 |
_x0r_ | cat /etc/debian_version shows 9 | 03:10 |
_x0r_ | currently only apache2 is in use | 03:10 |
DonkeyHotei | https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/ is the guide usually linked for that, but idk if it works for version 9 | 03:11 |
_x0r_ | it's in use, so i need some guide which works | 03:11 |
Xenguy | 9 = ? | 03:12 |
gnarface | stretch is 9 | 03:12 |
Xenguy | so post-ascii | 03:12 |
_x0r_ | yes | 03:12 |
gnarface | you should be able to install devuan in a chroot or VM no problem | 03:12 |
DonkeyHotei | jessie is 8 | 03:12 |
Xenguy | tx | 03:12 |
DonkeyHotei | gnarface: _x0r_ is asking about migrating in place | 03:13 |
gnarface | there might still be an outstanding problem with debian's debootstrap, not sure about that. but you can just replace theirs with the devuan one first, if so. | 03:13 |
_x0r_ | this server is hosting an open source mirror | 03:13 |
_x0r_ | please stay true | 03:13 |
gnarface | oh, migrating in place is more risky, but people have succeeded at it. | 03:13 |
Xenguy | devuan == true | 03:14 |
* _x0r_ has not direct acces | 03:14 | |
gnarface | read the forum for info on problems people have had | 03:14 |
_x0r_ | only remote ssh thing | 03:14 |
DonkeyHotei | the question is about migrating in place on a production server without console access | 03:15 |
_x0r_ | ssh is available… | 03:15 |
gnarface | there could be just some package conflicts that might cause you to panic, that's something worth trying locally first | 03:15 |
gnarface | ... and reading the forum about | 03:15 |
* Xenguy loves ssh, but doesn't get to use it much anymore ... | 03:16 | |
* _x0r_ is using devuan in private… | 03:16 | |
_x0r_ | base install and compiling the rest | 03:17 |
_x0r_ | don't get me ẃrong | 03:17 |
_x0r_ | but at some things, i need to change… | 03:17 |
Ryushin | I've converted a VM from Stretch to Ascii with no issues. It was very simple though. SSH was really the only thing installed. | 03:18 |
Xenguy | Sorry about that Chief... | 03:18 |
_x0r_ | vm is not a hardware | 03:18 |
Xenguy | The Olde 'Beam my work desktop to my home terminal' trick! | 03:18 |
Xenguy | Thanks SSH | 03:18 |
_x0r_ | trick? | 03:18 |
Xenguy | Olde reference | 03:18 |
Xenguy | There was an SSH gateway... | 03:19 |
_x0r_ | got it | 03:19 |
Xenguy | Where I worked... | 03:19 |
Xenguy | And some genius figured out that you could use that channel to do an 'rdesktop' thing... | 03:19 |
Xenguy | I forget the name of the protocol (RDP?) | 03:20 |
_x0r_ | nevermind, i'll stay here for a solution | 03:20 |
Xenguy | It was amazing | 03:20 |
Xenguy | But I'm probably OT | 03:20 |
_x0r_ | xD | 03:20 |
_x0r_ | remote desktop shity | 03:20 |
Xenguy | No it was perfect | 03:20 |
Ryushin | _x0r_: Solution to what? Converting Stretch to Ascii? | 03:20 |
Xenguy | Native time | 03:20 |
DonkeyHotei | debian to devuan | 03:21 |
Xenguy | Yes! | 03:21 |
_x0r_ | converting a fucking debian to debuan remotly | 03:21 |
Xenguy | Bite the bullet | 03:21 |
_x0r_ | devuan (sry) | 03:21 |
Xenguy | It worked for me once | 03:21 |
DonkeyHotei | _x0r_: if you can, back the system up to a vm, then try converting the vm for practice | 03:22 |
Ryushin | Don't see what it would not work remotely. Just put the devuan apt sources in, installed the devuan-keyring, install the sysvinit stuff. It will make you reboot once to finally be able to purge systemd though. | 03:22 |
_x0r_ | DonkeyHotei: all of this is hardly running on pure hardware | 03:23 |
_x0r_ | my english sucks, but i don't care about that | 03:23 |
_x0r_ | :s | 03:23 |
Xenguy | Why would English become the most popular language in the world? | 03:24 |
Xenguy | It's a freak of nature | 03:24 |
_xOr_ | sry (24h cut) | 03:27 |
Xenguy | Don't be sorry, it's alright | 03:27 |
_xOr_ | just respect man | 03:28 |
Xenguy | "You've got 255 seconds to comply ..." | 03:28 |
booyah | Xenguy: because china number 2 | 03:28 |
booyah | usa number 1 | 03:28 |
Xenguy | Maybe | 03:29 |
_xOr_ | i choose 256 | 03:29 |
Xenguy | 156! | 03:29 |
_xOr_ | we can calc after | 03:29 |
_xOr_ | tell why | 03:29 |
Xenguy | haha | 03:29 |
_xOr_ | :P | 03:30 |
Xenguy | I always liked the number | 03:30 |
Xenguy | It sounds strange, but it's true | 03:31 |
Xenguy | Then I found out it means other things | 03:31 |
Xenguy | But it ends there | 03:31 |
_xOr_ | i don't want to think about ciphers :s | 03:31 |
Xenguy | I know, it gets annoying after awhile | 03:31 |
Xenguy | Good word too, cypher | 03:32 |
* _xOr_ needs help leaving debian to devuan! | 03:32 | |
Xenguy | -> references the Matrix character too | 03:32 |
Xenguy | _xOr_: Ask | 03:33 |
_xOr_ | what is the best way | 03:33 |
_xOr_ | editing /etc/apt/sources.list ? | 03:33 |
Xenguy | What's you Current State? | 03:33 |
Xenguy | oh | 03:33 |
Xenguy | Why not, if you're comfortable with a text editor? | 03:34 |
_xOr_ | providing http(s) services | 03:34 |
_xOr_ | that's all | 03:34 |
_xOr_ | apache2 is in use… | 03:34 |
Xenguy | What's the question? | 03:34 |
_xOr_ | again: switching from debian 2 devuan!! | 03:35 |
Xenguy | What version of debian are you running? | 03:35 |
Xenguy | Apologies, I'm distracted | 03:35 |
DonkeyHotei | Xenguy: stretch to ascii | 03:37 |
_xOr_ | ty DonkeyHotei | 03:38 |
Xenguy | Is there a howto for that? | 03:39 |
Xenguy | I know there are various migration paths/howtos | 03:40 |
Xenguy | But not sure about this use case | 03:40 |
Xenguy | On the forums, typically | 03:40 |
_xOr_ | Xenguy: it's an indivudal setup for a true gnu linux distri | 03:40 |
_xOr_ | and i want to switch… | 03:40 |
Xenguy | I always tried to follow someone who had gone before | 03:41 |
Xenguy | It's almost rare that someone hasn't crossed that bridge first | 03:41 |
_xOr_ | ok i don't have to hide something | 03:41 |
_xOr_ | you could ask me in private | 03:42 |
Xenguy | I'm sorry, I must have missed something | 03:42 |
_xOr_ | again | 03:42 |
Xenguy | Pardon me | 03:42 |
_xOr_ | i need to switch from a debain to devuan distri | 03:42 |
_xOr_ | no problem | 03:42 |
_xOr_ | thx for helping | 03:43 |
Xenguy | You just need to find the documentation from someone who has gone before you... | 03:43 |
Xenguy | Stick around this channel, and others may see your question, and help more than me | 03:43 |
Xenguy | golinux is often very helpful | 03:43 |
specing | _xOr_: check the forums? | 03:44 |
Xenguy | Exactly | 03:44 |
specing | _xOr_: do you use btrfs/ZFS by any chance? | 03:44 |
specing | on those you could just install into another subvolume and then reboot into it | 03:44 |
_xOr_ | specing: mkfs.ext4 only for data, boot is ext2 | 03:45 |
_xOr_ | sda1 /boot | 03:46 |
_xOr_ | sda2 /swap | 03:46 |
_xOr_ | sd3 /root (aka data) | 03:46 |
specing | not even LVM? | 03:46 |
specing | Well, too bad. | 03:47 |
_xOr_ | would'nt be a problem | 03:47 |
_xOr_ | just tell me which way | 03:48 |
specing | you could try installing it somewhere else, verifying that it works and then rsync it over active server | 03:49 |
_xOr_ | situation: remote is only accessable by ssh | 03:50 |
_xOr_ | so i have to find a solution | 03:50 |
specing | or you could prepare a whole disk image and then cat image | ssh root@remote 'dd of=/dev/sda bs=64k' | 03:51 |
_xOr_ | i could not press a button remote | 03:51 |
_xOr_ | understand that? | 03:51 |
specing | this also lets you install with btrfs | 03:51 |
specing | you have no management console available? | 03:51 |
_xOr_ | i know what is possible, but i now what mostly fails… | 03:52 |
_xOr_ | one thing for open source, get it like that… | 03:52 |
_xOr_ | could i hate systemd here? | 03:54 |
* _xOr_ is afk | 03:55 | |
_xOr_ | brb | 03:55 |
DonkeyHotei | yes | 03:59 |
_xOr_ | re | 04:33 |
_xOr_ | example: | 04:33 |
_xOr_ | solutiom for giving other people the right to reboot? | 04:34 |
_xOr_ | my opionion, sudo has done this job… | 04:34 |
_xOr_ | but now, ok that's off-topic not beling to devuan - sorry | 04:35 |
_xOr_ | ./s/beling/below/ | 04:36 |
_xOr_ | last try - anybody has an idea for switching? | 04:37 |
_xOr_ | debian version == 9; uname -a == 4.9.144-3.1 | 04:38 |
_xOr_ | thx for help! | 04:39 |
_xOr_ | as i don't lose ssh access every solution is welcome! | 04:39 |
* _xOr_ may will out with an mirror | 04:41 | |
_xOr_ | stay true! | 04:41 |
_xOr_ | akku from remote fails, :s (some words missing) | 04:43 |
_xOr_ | what's up? | 04:44 |
_xOr_ | any dev here? | 04:44 |
_x0r_ | again | 04:48 |
* _x0r_ may could help with some mirror | 04:49 | |
_x0r_ | just help this little thing, please… | 04:50 |
_x0r_ | if anyone from here successful switching, i'll provide an high performance mirror! | 04:54 |
_x0r_ | helps successfully … | 04:54 |
_x0r_ | located at datacenter… | 04:59 |
_x0r_ | EOF | 04:59 |
golinux | _x0r_: Bad timing for you atm. Most devs who could help are sleeping. Unfortunately, I don't do remote, | 04:59 |
golinux | Did you see these guides? https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/ | 05:00 |
_x0r_ | ok, it would be seen | 05:00 |
_x0r_ | i'm not the person who cares about rules | 05:01 |
golinux | You might also want to look at the release notes: https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/Release_notes.txt | 05:01 |
golinux | There are a few gottchas | 05:01 |
golinux | You'll need to check your sources.list: https://devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list | 05:03 |
_xOr_ | re | 05:20 |
_xOr_ | it's me mario :D | 05:42 |
_xOr_ | again, providing fast servers for mirroring, just help me out this situation, thx | 05:45 |
_xOr_ | testing no problem… | 05:46 |
_xOr_ | GNU for live! | 05:47 |
golinux | _xOr_: There will be people here in 3-4 hours. | 05:48 |
_xOr_ | i know | 05:49 |
_xOr_ | ty | 05:49 |
_xOr_ | would be hard, but 3 hours where possible… | 05:51 |
_x0r_ | as always stay true | 06:26 |
tuxd3v | hello all | 19:31 |
tuxd3v | good afternoon | 19:32 |
gnarface | get your stuff all working? | 19:33 |
tuxd3v | not yet, but I am closer | 19:34 |
tuxd3v | I have a Frankenstein cross-tool-chain now | 19:34 |
tuxd3v | A mix between linaro 4.9 and linaro 7.1 | 19:34 |
tuxd3v | But I am fixing some stuff and I am planning ti jump to 8.x | 19:35 |
tuxd3v | Hurra | 21:50 |
tuxd3v | somke progress here | 21:50 |
tuxd3v | but only using a fb-dev device no Mali | 21:51 |
tuxd3v | yet | 21:51 |
tuxd3v | and CPU is a very Hot... | 21:51 |
tuxd3v | its not normal.. | 21:51 |
tuxd3v | the normal would be 35C in standby | 21:51 |
tuxd3v | I got 51C | 21:52 |
tuxd3v | puff | 21:52 |
tuxd3v | after boot | 21:52 |
tuxd3v | xfce | 21:52 |
tuxd3v | only with xterm and chromium | 21:52 |
tuxd3v | around 186 MB | 21:52 |
tuxd3v | but after some time, it goes 206MB | 21:53 |
tuxd3v | anny way | 21:53 |
tuxd3v | Does any one knows how to properly set the Display resolution? | 21:54 |
tuxd3v | I am using hdmi | 21:54 |
tuxd3v | hdmi to VGA | 21:54 |
tuxd3v | 1080x1050@60 Hz | 21:54 |
tuxd3v | display | 21:54 |
KatolaZ | which display> | 21:54 |
KatolaZ | ? | 21:54 |
KatolaZ | the external one? | 21:54 |
tuxd3v | but edid not recognized | 21:54 |
KatolaZ | just use xrandr | 21:54 |
KatolaZ | or arandr | 21:55 |
tuxd3v | I only have one display | 21:56 |
tuxd3v | its external | 21:56 |
tuxd3v | This is were II got: | 22:11 |
tuxd3v | https://paste2.org/zDzhj8ZJ | 22:11 |
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