| systemdlete2 | I need to detach the testbox from both the video and usb (kb/mouse) in order to do the install "stand-alone" (without the KVM in-line) | 00:00 |
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| systemdlete2 | but that means setting up a separate monitor... which was the whole point of the KVM. Maybe later today or tomorrow I'll stop crying over this and set up my old monitor just for the install. Once it is installed, it should be fine. The ascii install went without a hitch, but that was BEFORE the KVM | 00:01 |
| gnarface | systemdlete2: yea, i'm sure now there must be some kernel parameter or hotplug config change you can use to make the one box behave. it might have something to do with different USB implementations still, but what i recall it coming down to was a nasty hotplug hack that was just magically included in the Windows version of the driver but isn't on by default in linux | 00:01 |
| systemdlete2 | before I connected the testbox and my main computer to the KVM | 00:01 |
| systemdlete2 | gnarface: Thank you for that info. | 00:02 |
| gnarface | i remember running into it years ago, and thinking "oh, that's why this KVM was only $1" | 00:03 |
| brocashelm | gnarface: thanks, reading it now | 00:04 |
| systemdlete2 | on a different note, logwatch 7.5.x breaks non-systemd distros. I just updated it in my artix VM, and now the daily logwatch reports tell my that it cannot exec "journalctl" ... Duh. So another package is now unusable thanks to the new Linux regime at RH | 00:04 |
| gnarface | ouch | 00:04 |
| systemdlete2 | Yeah. I think I paid $5 for this box. Something silly. | 00:04 |
| brocashelm | that blows | 00:04 |
| systemdlete2 | They have hardcoded logwatch for systemd!!! | 00:04 |
| gnarface | systemdlete2: i'm wondering if the version of logwatch in devuan has been patched so that doesn't happen | 00:04 |
| systemdlete2 | rather than parameterizing things to work for systemd also. | 00:05 |
| gnarface | jerks | 00:05 |
| systemdlete2 | (I hope so, gnarface!) | 00:05 |
| systemdlete2 | artix channel is not too interested... and arch won't even talk to me. something about it being artix and my nick... :p | 00:05 |
| gnarface | heh | 00:06 |
| systemdlete2 | seems one must go "undercover" to approach arch about issues with packages common to their distro and derivatives | 00:06 |
| systemdlete2 | logwatch is at 7.4.3 in jessie and there is no upgrade in the repo now | 00:08 |
| brocashelm | lol | 00:08 |
| systemdlete2 | no sure about ascii | 00:09 |
| systemdlete2 | or any other devuan release | 00:09 |
| gnarface | https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pkgweb-query?search=logwatch&release=ascii | 00:09 |
| * systemdlete2 boots testbox into ascii | 00:09 | |
| gnarface | logwatch-7.4.3+git20161207-2 ? | 00:09 |
| gnarface | that might include the right patches | 00:09 |
| systemdlete2 | ah, ok | 00:09 |
| systemdlete2 | the change seems to have occured more recently, with 7.5.x | 00:10 |
| gnarface | there's also something called fwlogwatch-1.4-1... not sure if it's related | 00:10 |
| gnarface | i'm showing 7.5 in ceres, but that doesn't mean the patch wasn't backported | 00:10 |
| systemdlete2 | that's for firewall extensions I believe | 00:10 |
| systemdlete2 | hmmm. | 00:10 |
| systemdlete2 | I don't have a ceres here, afaik | 00:10 |
| systemdlete2 | just jessie, ascii, and beowulf | 00:11 |
| systemdlete2 | I should say, "beowulf" | 00:11 |
| systemdlete2 | I could create a ceres in a VM and see how it behaves. | 00:11 |
| gnarface | it might actually be in better condition than beowulf in some regards | 00:12 |
| systemdlete2 | "behave" I meant logwatch. | 00:12 |
| gnarface | oh | 00:12 |
| systemdlete2 | I'm sure ceres is very, very kool | 00:12 |
| gnarface | yea, might be worth a try | 00:12 |
| systemdlete2 | Gotta go out for a bit. I'll try this later. I'll post my findings here... | 00:13 |
| gnarface | peace | 00:15 |
| rdav__ | The D in SystemD stands for Danger, Will Robinson! Defanged exploit code for security holes now out in the wild • The Register https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/01/31/systemd_exploit/ | 00:48 |
| golinux | Everybody, please move systemd discussion to #debianfork. | 00:56 |
| Xenguy | rdav__: Thanks for the link (you should /join #debianfork) | 01:00 |
| rdav__ | golinux , Xenguy thanks for guidance, will do | 01:01 |
| brocashelm | i'm going to that channel | 01:03 |
| ttkv | http://ciar.org/h/3a59e0.txt | 01:27 |
| Xenguy | Some context would be nice | 01:44 |
| Venker | hi people | 09:34 |
| gnarface | greetings Venker, best to just state your question and hope someone has an answer | 09:34 |
| Venker | thanks, gnarface :) | 09:35 |
| Venker | I'm afraid I forgot my devuan laptop at home :\ | 09:41 |
| Venker | did someone setted up lxc 3.x in devuan beowulf? | 10:39 |
| Venker | anyone*, sorry | 10:39 |
| golinux | Venker: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pkgweb-query?search=lxc&release=any | 10:43 |
| KatolaZ | Venker: is it an issue with apparmor? | 10:44 |
| KatolaZ | Venker: 'cause you know you have to use an unrestricted profile for lxc to work on beowulf, right? | 10:45 |
| Venker | KatolaZ: yes, I once disabled (and even deinstalled) apparmor with lxc 2.x but it didn't work either. Containers didn't start | 10:47 |
| Venker | golinux: thanks for the pkginfo web ;-) | 10:48 |
| KatolaZ | Venker: what error do you see? | 10:48 |
| KatolaZ | Venker: you need | 10:49 |
| KatolaZ | lxc.apparmor.allow_incomplete = 1 | 10:49 |
| KatolaZ | in the config file | 10:49 |
| KatolaZ | or they won't start | 10:50 |
| Venker | KatolaZ: I purged all lxc packages to rebuild config from zero. I'll check that line, too | 10:51 |
| KatolaZ | no need to purge packages | 10:51 |
| KatolaZ | that's the per-container config | 10:51 |
| KatolaZ | it's in /var/lib/lxc/CONTAINER_NAME/config | 10:52 |
| Venker | ouch -_-U | 10:53 |
| Venker | thanks a lot | 10:55 |
| KatolaZ | nw | 10:56 |
| r3boot | Meh .. just found out that my car is not allowed in brussel .. cant make it to fosdem :( | 16:42 |
| errandir1 | park in the outskirts or in a different town & take the train. | 16:51 |
| r3boot | Will consider that yeah | 16:51 |
| r3boot | KatolaZ: just wondering, will you be at fosdem? | 16:52 |
| Venker | r3boot: do you drive a Decepticon car? | 17:01 |
| r3boot | Venker: Mazda MX5 NA8 from 1994 :P | 17:01 |
| Venker | why is not allowed? | 17:02 |
| r3boot | https://www.lez.brussels/nl/content/mijn-voertuig | 17:02 |
| r3boot | because the municipality in brussels wants to do something about the pollution, so they're banning older cars / trucks etc | 17:03 |
| r3boot | German cities have similar rules, and the biggest dutch cities also have them | 17:03 |
| Venker | oh, yes, the hypocrite-green-policies | 17:03 |
| r3boot | mja, it kinda makes sense (old cars are *cheap*, and you can easily spend 500 a year on a car each year w/o any maintenance and still keep driving) | 17:04 |
| r3boot | Too bad that my restored mx5 also falls under those rules :< | 17:04 |
| r3boot | (it has modern cataclytic converters etc, but it's banned just based on the date) | 17:05 |
| Venker | :\ | 17:08 |
| KatolaZ | r3boot: unfortunately not | 17:13 |
| r3boot | Check | 17:21 |
| Hum | Hi I would like to install mediagoblin.org and need npm for it. npm isn't included devuan but in debian. devuan is also a package for npm which makes search for this topic not easy. To you have any hint for me? | 19:08 |
| pardis | Enable the backports repo (assuming ascii) | 19:10 |
| pardis | Which is exactly the same thing you need to do on Debian stretch to get that package | 19:10 |
| Hum | pardis: Thx. I will have a look at it | 19:11 |
| se7en | Interesting | 22:13 |
| se7en | Bleachbit now has poblems after trying to fix my partition map | 22:13 |
| se7en | It's hung | 22:13 |
| se7en | And the computer is slow so it must be doing something | 22:14 |
| se7en | debug: re-enabling swap | 22:14 |
| se7en | followed by a series of python errrs | 22:14 |
| se7en | finished with | 22:15 |
| se7en | RuntimeError: swapon: /dev/mapper/lappy--vg-swap_1: read swap header failed | 22:15 |
| se7en | [13:15 root@lappy se7en] > swapon /dev/mapper/lappy--vg-swap_1 | 22:16 |
| se7en | swapon: /dev/mapper/lappy--vg-swap_1: read swap header failed | 22:16 |
| se7en | [13:16 root@lappy se7en] > swapon /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 | 22:16 |
| se7en | [13:16 root@lappy se7en] > | 22:16 |
| se7en | Interesting | 22:16 |
| se7en | N/m my fstab was fucked | 22:19 |
| se7en | But bleachbit still does this | 22:20 |
| se7en | debug: running cmd ['swapoff', '-a', '-v'] | 22:20 |
| se7en | debug: detected swap devices: ['/dev/dm-6'] | 22:20 |
| se7en | info: wiping swap device '/dev/dm-6' | 22:20 |
| se7en | gnarface: | 22:21 |
| gnarface | se7en: i don't know what bleachbit is even supposed to do. that's not the right output? it seems like it said it's doing what you want. | 23:05 |
| se7en | It's not. It gets hung. Bleachbit is a cleaner | 23:08 |
| gnarface | well you ran it, and it decided to clean your swap, which apparently requires unmounting it first | 23:09 |
| gnarface | seems normal to me | 23:09 |
| se7en | Yes, but it is cleaning the wrong thing | 23:10 |
| gnarface | so? what do you want me to do about it? | 23:10 |
| se7en | First it was due to an improperly configured fsta. I fixed it | 23:10 |
| gnarface | i'm not even sure it's cleaning the wrong thing... | 23:10 |
| se7en | Then it said it thinks that my swap os /dev/dm-6 | 23:10 |
| se7en | But it gets hung | 23:10 |
| gnarface | how do you know it's just not still working? | 23:11 |
| se7en | It lasted too long | 23:11 |
| se7en | I may be wrong | 23:11 |
| gnarface | did the harddrive light keep blinking? | 23:11 |
| gnarface | if the harddrive light keeps blinking, it's still working | 23:12 |
| gnarface | if it's picking the wrong device, i've got no idea why | 23:12 |
| se7en | It did keep blinking | 23:12 |
| gnarface | well, i have one idea; it might be pointing to the wrong device because it's not smart enough to find your encrypted swap without help, but that's just a guess | 23:12 |
| gnarface | but if the light kept blinking, it was still working. | 23:13 |
| gnarface | so it's possible it was doing everything perfectly and you just panicked and killed it too early | 23:13 |
| gnarface | i frankly don't know how long it should take bleachbit to do this | 23:13 |
| gnarface | but i'm certain that you haven't read the documentation either, which might actually tell you | 23:14 |
| se7en | lol | 23:15 |
| se7en | harsh assumptions | 23:15 |
| gnarface | well i certainly haven't read it's documentation, so if you have, then why are you asking me about it?! | 23:15 |
| gnarface | if it's doing anything like badblocks does, it could take DAYS to finish | 23:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | from in middle of a chat about why KDE5 is such a pile of shit: | 23:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [1 Feb 2019 23:52:14] <Avengence> missing and duplicated messages are no surprise, DBus relies on glib, and glib doesn't even check if memory allocation succeeds so anything built on it is going to be crashy | 23:55 |
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