Xenguy | Whatever happened to browser agnostic web pages? | 02:15 |
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man_in_shack | microsoft did | 02:16 |
Xenguy | Hey, does anyone else find it warm in here? | 02:20 |
Xenguy | Just seems to be getting hotter and hotter... | 02:20 |
Xenguy | Damn you man_in_shack , you've gone and set me on fire! | 02:20 |
Xenguy | 8 -D | 02:21 |
Xenguy | I saw the announcement about the 1st Devuan Conference today; was pleased to see it. | 02:21 |
jonadab | man_in_shack: I blame Node | 02:22 |
man_in_shack | i blame jonadab | 02:23 |
jonadab | Ok, I admit it: I started using transparent .png images even though I know perfectly well IE6 shows an ugly gray background. | 02:28 |
man_in_shack | hahahahaha ie6 | 02:29 |
gnarface | -> #debianfork with this stuff guys. our enemies watch this channel and they fucking LOVE IE6 | 02:32 |
gnarface | (besides which, the problem started with IE3) | 02:33 |
ttkv | the problem started when people decided computers were for graphics | 02:34 |
ttkv | ;-) | 02:34 |
scottfurry | would like to confirm... open-rc can be installed via current iso dvd via export mode but not the graphical installer or graphical installer expert mode. | 07:10 |
golinux | Yes, it is an option in expert mode | 07:16 |
golinux | scottfurry: ^^^ | 07:16 |
scottfurry | golinux thanks. I hadn't tried the expert mode (assumed terminal type if IRC). I had hoped to try the Devuan install with open-rc. Tried both graphical and graphical expert to no avail. | 07:17 |
scottfurry | Where to file the "feature request"? | 07:18 |
golinux | I don't think there is a graphical expert option | 07:21 |
scottfurry | I got there from iso main menu; Advanced; graphical. I may be using wrong terms but the process was more involved than plain graphical. | 07:22 |
Jjp137 | scottfurry, in either expert install, at the "Load installer components from CD" step, make sure to select the choose-init component | 07:24 |
Jjp137 | then later you'll be asked which init to install | 07:25 |
scottfurry | Jjp137 - excellent!!!! Good tip. Will try that in a virtualbox install right now. | 07:25 |
scottfurry | looks like the openrc option worked. Looks good. Just realized that latest openrc is ver 0.35 IIRC. Install DVD doesn't load latest but its a good start. | 07:55 |
scottfurry | golinux Jjp137 THX for help. | 08:14 |
Jjp137 | np | 08:15 |
decent-username | Hi, I just found about this project. I would like to participate in the forum at dev1galaxy.org, but whenever I try to register my account, it gets dismissed as spam. | 09:54 |
decent-username | Does the forum not allow people to register via Tor? | 09:54 |
devoid_ | hello decent-username | 09:55 |
devoid_ | are you a terrorist? | 09:55 |
decent-username | I'm a Gnübermensch. | 09:56 |
decent-username | probably only a very tiny minority will get this joke. | 09:56 |
decent-username | I don't use the internet without tor. | 09:56 |
devoid_ | https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-02/tor-project-almost-100-funded-us-government-report | 09:59 |
devoid_ | https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/147402/how-do-traffic-correlation-attacks-against-tor-users-work | 09:59 |
decent-username | still 10x better than running around naked and shouting out your address. haha | 10:00 |
devoid_ | why | 10:00 |
decent-username | Because I wouldn't want people knocking on my door. | 10:01 |
devoid_ | why | 10:01 |
devoid_ | perhaps stop using this shit then | 10:01 |
devoid_ | all it does is make you a target | 10:01 |
decent-username | devoid: You seem a bit too pessimistic for me. Some tor user has a target on their back. Even if they were able to somehow figure out my ip address. It would be almost impossible to track it back to me. ^^ | 10:03 |
decent-username | I'm getting into GNUnet either way. | 10:03 |
decent-username | I'll ask #d1g-users if the know what's up. | 10:05 |
r3boot | gnubermensch .. now I've been doing UNIX for over 15 years already, but I really never heard about that term before .. TIL :P | 10:34 |
r3boot | (also .. proper people use BSD ;P j/k) | 10:35 |
DocScrutinizer05 | a gnubermensch with no patience. IRC-incompatible | 11:07 |
DocScrutinizer05 | could have told tjem that all tor exit nodes are listed on RBL | 11:08 |
r3boot | nah, he'll figure it out soon enough :P | 11:13 |
devoid_ | i hope he gets hit with a browser 0day from a malicious exit node | 11:14 |
man_in_shack | r3boot: you haven't heard of it before because you've been doing unix | 11:28 |
man_in_shack | and gnu is not unix | 11:28 |
r3boot | Ofc, how could I be so stupid :P | 11:29 |
man_in_shack | easily, as it turns out | 11:31 |
PaulTheNeko | Excuse me, will the Jessie minimal install tutorial work with ascii if I replace the name in debootstrap and the repos in sources.list? | 11:35 |
man_in_shack | in theory yes | 11:36 |
PaulTheNeko | Thanks | 11:37 |
gnarface | you might want to change the hostname in the sources.list to deb.devuan.org too, if it's an old tutorial | 11:46 |
gnarface | pkgmaster will give you about 11kbps to America and auto.mirror is just a deprecated record pointing to a bunch of broken mirrors. you might successfully complete an install or you might not, depending on package choice | 11:47 |
jordila | when i add something like 'iwconfig wlan0 txpower 1mW' to my /etc/rc.local and it doesn't run at startup , i might be missing some basics ... which one am i ? | 11:49 |
gnarface | the path, probably | 11:50 |
gnarface | you checked to make sure the script itself gets called, right? | 11:52 |
gnarface | it should have come along with the "initscripts" package, which should be normal to have but i think it's possible to get an install without it. | 11:52 |
gnarface | (you can't just create an /etc/rc.local and expect it to work without the /etc/init.d/rc.local script to call it) | 11:53 |
gnarface | it'll be called with root permission but $PATH won't be defined | 11:54 |
gnarface | so this should work: /sbin/ifconfig | 11:55 |
gnarface | but this would not: ifconfig | 11:55 |
gnarface | follow me? | 11:55 |
jordila | i follow you gnarface | 11:57 |
gnarface | ok, just making sure | 11:58 |
* jordila would rather than plain 'iwconfig wlan0 txpower 1mW' try '/sbin/iwconfig wlan0 txpower 1mW' | 11:59 | |
r3boot | Another option would be to add /sbin to the PATH inside of rc.local | 12:00 |
jordila | ah | 12:00 |
gnarface | yea, it's just a bash script, jordila. nothing is stopping you from defining PATH yourself | 12:01 |
gnarface | but then you have TWO lines of code | 12:01 |
gnarface | it's debatable whether that's materially simpler in this case if that's the only thing in there | 12:01 |
r3boot | it's a completely useless debate as well ;) | 12:01 |
gnarface | yes, but past a few lines, it could save some typing | 12:02 |
r3boot | care. Having a properly configured UNIX box is much more interesting then being able to save a bunch of characters being typed :P | 12:03 |
gnarface | oh i agree | 12:03 |
gnarface | in the end, when you're maintaining it yourself, all that matters is what you're comfortable with | 12:03 |
r3boot | Sure :) | 12:04 |
r3boot | Ugh .. I'm typing python for sysadmin scripts instead of shell, and it's been quite a long time since I've typed python .. Am a bit rusty, and I'm applying way too much shellscripting conventions to this script :P | 12:05 |
* jordila is wondering wether closing (to say so) 'exit 0' has to mandatory end it's /etc/rc.local file or not | 12:16 | |
gnarface | no, of course not. throw a non-zero (positive integer) value when you want to error. | 12:17 |
gnarface | most things will interpret 0 as a success and anything else as failure | 12:19 |
gnarface | oh, i may be wrong... it may be just values of 0-255 that are considered valid | 12:23 |
jordila | may i just replace 'exit 0' by 'my command' ^^ ? | 12:26 |
gnarface | i would think the only consequence is an error in your log but i don't know for sure... | 12:28 |
gnarface | you might want to ready a live usb image first, just in case something goes wrong | 12:29 |
gnarface | so you can fix it easy | 12:29 |
* jordila https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/247378/do-i-need-exit-0-at-the-end-of-rc-local | 12:30 | |
gnarface | yea the general consensus should be that it's fine and you'll just get a error | 12:31 |
gnarface | but it's the last thing in boot | 12:31 |
gnarface | like, the very last thing | 12:31 |
ca-on-adam | I'm going to try out ascii netinstall on a VPS, I'll report back if there are problems. | 12:42 |
ca-on-adam | Ah, this company doesn't support ISO images... hmm that makes the availability of virtual machine images of Devuan very handy! | 12:52 |
barnsey | hi all, having trouble getting the ascii raspi2 image to run. Does anyone else have this working? | 13:12 |
gnarface | i only have the the rpi1 | 13:18 |
gnarface | did you create the config file? | 13:19 |
gnarface | with my rpi 1, i need to create a config file | 13:19 |
gnarface | same as raspbian more or less | 13:19 |
barnsey | no I just DDd the image and run it, I've not needed to make a config this on Raspian or jessie. | 13:30 |
gnarface | barnsey: maybe the raspbian install came with a default working config? check for it | 13:36 |
gnarface | barnsey: i'm not sure if the devuan image actually has a populated one, but you might need to change stuff in it anyway... | 13:37 |
barnsey | gnarface: devuan_jessie raspi2 image works fine out of the box, I'm not sure what config would stop it from booting the kernel. | 13:42 |
gnarface | barnsey: /boot/config.txt i think it is. compare them | 13:45 |
gnarface | barnsey: differences may also interfere with you being able to see the screen without interfering with boot up | 13:47 |
barnsey | gnarface: thanks, i'll check that out. | 13:48 |
PaulTheNeko | Does anyone know how can I install Devuan on an lvm volume? | 14:06 |
gnarface | PaulTheNeko: did you try expert mode, manual partitioning? | 14:10 |
PaulTheNeko | I can't figure out how do I get expert more, I'm using the live CD ISO, could that be the problem? | 14:11 |
PaulTheNeko | mode* | 14:11 |
gnarface | oh, yea the live cd has limited installation options | 14:12 |
gnarface | you want the netinstall probably | 14:12 |
PaulTheNeko | Truth is, the last time I tried to boot netinstall, that failed. But I found a forum post here with the same question and they're talking about installing the Debian/Devuan installe | 14:14 |
PaulTheNeko | I guess I'll try the netinstall again | 14:18 |
PaulTheNeko | I can't boot the net installer iso, it says that /grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found | 15:01 |
PaulTheNeko | I put it on a pendrive with dd (bs=100M) if that matters | 15:02 |
gnarface | it might matter honestly | 15:08 |
gnarface | this could be just an issue of the wrong netinstall image too, i think | 15:10 |
gnarface | or it could be a efi/secureboot issue maybe? | 15:10 |
James1138 | Can anyone tell me more about " | 16:52 |
James1138 | Devuan Conference in Amsterdam | 16:52 |
KatolaZ | James1138: what do you want to know? | 17:08 |
James1138 | There article on TuxMachines said something about participating or sending in comments/suggestions. What we they looking for in general | 17:22 |
KatolaZ | James1138: which article? | 17:28 |
KatolaZ | http://tuxmachines.org/node/117948 <- ? | 17:29 |
James1138 | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117948 | 17:29 |
James1138 | https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20181128.044131.5a359f44.en.html | 17:30 |
KatolaZ | yep | 17:30 |
KatolaZ | if you want to offer sponsorship or propose a talk, use the email address provided in the email | 17:32 |
James1138 | Thanks. I did not know if they were asking for input from Devuan users in general. | 17:47 |
KatolaZ | James1138: what do you mean? | 17:55 |
KatolaZ | the actual program will be published in a few weeks time | 17:56 |
James1138 | Ahh... ok. I shall just wait. | 17:56 |
KatolaZ | James1138: if you have any comment about the conference in general , use the address reported in the email | 17:57 |
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