DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/15/japans-minister-of-cybersecurity-admits-hes-never-used-a-computer.html | 07:46 |
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furrymcgee | Public Money? Public Code? | 08:24 |
Centurion_Dan | DocScrutinizer05: perhaps it's offtopic for here | 09:07 |
Centurion_Dan | Anyone know what the state of merged /usr is for Debian Buster & Sid?? | 09:31 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Centurion_Dan: yes, sorry. It's OT | 10:17 |
Centurion_Dan | DocScrutinizer05: what I didn't say (because of the OT nature) was, at least that guy can claim objectivity :-P | 10:18 |
DocScrutinizer05 | faintly on topic and for sure interesting: Bringing the Android kernel back to the mainline https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/771974/5d4cae622476fb24/ | 10:20 |
furrymcgee | android take over of linux mainline | 10:30 |
poeinklum | I have this issue with mate-panel, which I'm not sure is Devuan-related or just general; perhaps you could tell me which it is. | 11:21 |
poeinklum | So, on my system, a binary named nsight is installed under /usr/local/cuda/bin ; and that folder is _not_ in the PATH. | 11:22 |
poeinklum | I also have symbolic link, /usr/local/bin/nsight -> /usr/local/cuda/bin/nsight . | 11:22 |
poeinklum | Now, if I'm in my Cinnamon desktop's mate panel (in fallback mode), | 11:23 |
poeinklum | and enter just "nsight" - nothing runs, | 11:23 |
poeinklum | but entering the full path of the link target, /usr/local/cuda/bin/nsight - runs the binary | 11:23 |
jyri | I don't think that you have /usr/local/bin in your $PATH | 11:26 |
jyri | I mean, you probably have it in your shell set up correctly but not in the window manager | 11:29 |
poeinklum | jyri: Ahh.... interesting | 11:29 |
poeinklum | jyri: But there's the thing: even if I try to "execute" the link with its full path, i.e. "/usr/local/bin/nsight" - it still doesn't work. | 11:30 |
jyri | hmm, that should work | 11:33 |
poeinklum | jyri: Also - I just checked, and /usr/local/bin _is_ in the PATH of mate-panel (checked in /proc/$(pgrep mate-panel)/environ) | 11:33 |
jyri | I assume that you have triple checked that the symlink is correct and your user has rx permissions to /usr/local/bin, then I'm out of ideas :( | 11:41 |
gnarface | poeinklum: no errors when that happens? | 11:43 |
gnarface | some programs just need to launch from a terminal... there's some ways to fool them... | 11:43 |
poeinklum | gnarface: No errors that I know of | 11:45 |
poeinklum | It's a launcher shell script, though | 11:45 |
gnarface | maybe the problem is some other environment variable | 11:51 |
errandir_ | is /usr/local/cuda/bin on the same filesystem as /usr/local/bin? And are they not remote FSs? | 12:43 |
FatPhil | How can I undo this: [UPGRADE] palemoon:amd64 27.6.2~repack-1 -> 28.2.0~repack-1 | 13:01 |
FatPhil | the upgrade is as buggy as fuck, and is basically unusable. | 13:02 |
FatPhil | looks like I still have a 27.6.2 .deb in my /var/cache | 13:06 |
furrymcgee | apt install palemoon=27.6.2~repack-1, you know? | 13:08 |
FatPhil | will aptitude get confused by my doing that? | 13:08 |
FatPhil | it doesn't seem to acknowledge existence of that version of the package. | 13:09 |
furrymcgee | apt policy palemoon | 13:09 |
furrymcgee | this list all known version | 13:10 |
FatPhil | E: Version '27.6.2~repack-1' for 'palemoon' was not found | 13:10 |
FatPhil | E: Invalid operation policy | 13:10 |
furrymcgee | you could dpkg --purge and reinstall the package | 13:11 |
meowschwitz | dont you need to escape ~? | 13:12 |
meowschwitz | oh wait nvm | 13:12 |
meowschwitz | derp | 13:12 |
FatPhil | I was considering a --remove, I'm not sure what kind of config might be lost by a purge. | 13:13 |
furrymcgee | me neither but i believe it deleted everything from dpkg --listfiles package-name | 13:16 |
furrymcgee | maybe there are some package specific hooks for de-/installation | 13:18 |
FatPhil | where do the package's de/installation scripts reside? | 13:18 |
KatolaZ | FatPhil: apt-cache policy palemoon | 13:18 |
FatPhil | I just found /var/lib/dpkg/info/pale* | 13:20 |
FatPhil | not sure how to interpret the policy - it shows only the broken version | 13:21 |
FatPhil | I was holding 27.6 quite religiously, as I didn't want some new mis-features. But I just got sloppy a couple of days ago when doing an upgrade of the whole system, and said yes to all, not noticing palemoon was on the list. | 13:22 |
FatPhil | I guess going off piste and using my 'own' deb might help persuade aptitude to stop offering me such upgrades. | 13:23 |
furrymcgee | you can pin package version with apt config | 13:23 |
FatPhil | did the remove and dpkg -i, and it seems to work. aptitude now marks palemoon as upgradable. | 13:28 |
FatPhil | sanity has been restored, hopefully. thanks for the pointers. | 13:28 |
FatPhil | weird. it remembered all my passwords, but forgot all my cookie settings. | 13:36 |
meowschwitz | FatPhil: probably cache folder location changed | 13:46 |
meowschwitz | though if it is really a derivative of firefox iirc it should keep the jar in the same folder as the sec database | 13:46 |
FatPhil | meowschwitz: I think there's a more boring explanation - I think I accidentally blatted my cookie white/black-lists yesterday whilst thrashing around, and didn't notice the change because newer pale moon doesn't offer me the choices that I was used to. | 14:08 |
FatPhil | back to old pale moon, and I've got the lovely "ask me every time" back again. | 14:09 |
meowschwitz | I've never actually tried it | 14:13 |
poeinklum | gnarface: Like, which other environment variable? | 14:18 |
gnarface | poeinklum: no idea | 14:18 |
rrq | poeinklum: probably the targeted program looks at its $0 verbatim (rather than resolving to the canonical path), expecting to find sibling configuration files or whatnot. | 14:31 |
rrq | you could make /usr/local/bin/nsight be a script to exec with canoncal-path. | 14:33 |
rrq | i | 14:33 |
poeinklum | rrq: Just a sec | 14:33 |
poeinklum | rrq: Here it is: https://pastebin.com/C8PEPJuK | 14:34 |
poeinklum | and it does indeed look at its $0 | 14:34 |
poeinklum | That's kind of silly | 14:35 |
poeinklum | Ok, I can replace this script with something less smart-ass'y | 14:35 |
poeinklum | Thanks. | 14:35 |
rrq | nw | 14:36 |
filipdevuan_ | hey yesterday i installed 32 bit linux mint and after this when i wanted to boot into devuan i had initramfs crash or something like this and i wonder why | 14:45 |
rrq | probably magic. or that the mint installation did something cute with the partitions. | 14:59 |
filipdevuan_ | yeah im gonna install mint again 64 bit this time hopefully nothing would happen cuz i can't function without devuan, but i use mint to play diablo 3 on optimus nvidia gpu i have on the laptop its easier than devuan to set up | 15:01 |
filipdevuan_ | yesterday i set 7.1 sound and high quality (128) and i conencted my nice headphones and damn i had fun ;P. i don't know why sound feels better on win10 and newer linux distros than here on devuan | 15:02 |
filipdevuan_ | but its not a bad thing cuz listening to music from laptop is not my favourite activity | 15:02 |
errandir_ | maybe they have an equalizer on by default? | 16:13 |
ejr | how can i change the audio output in devuan to a particular device/sink? | 16:44 |
ejr | i can manually set it with vlc for e.g. bluetooth headset or speakers, but i don't want to do that for each individual program (vlc, mpv, browser etc.). | 16:45 |
meowschwitz | pavucontrol etc | 16:53 |
* nemo nods | 17:28 | |
concatime | One mirror is not set properly. | 18:57 |
KatolaZ | concatime: ? | 19:47 |
KatolaZ | can you elaborate on that, please? | 19:47 |
concatime | https://mirror.koddos.net/devuan/merged/pool/DEVUAN/main/u/util-linux/util-linux_2.32.1-0.1+devuan2.1_amd64.deb | 19:59 |
concatime | I sent a message to koddos | 19:59 |
concatime | They do not redirect /merged/pool/DEVUAN/(.*) -> /devuan/pool/$1 | 19:59 |
KatolaZ | mmmhhh | 20:01 |
KatolaZ | it works as deb.devuan.org though | 20:01 |
KatolaZ | hold on | 20:01 |
KatolaZ | and works with the IP | 20:01 |
KatolaZ | it fails if you use the FQDN though | 20:02 |
KatolaZ | I wil contact the admin immediately | 20:02 |
KatolaZ | it must be a glitch | 20:02 |
KatolaZ | concatime: done | 20:04 |
KatolaZ | I guess we will get a reply soon | 20:04 |
concatime | Thank you | 20:05 |
KatolaZ | np | 20:08 |
KatolaZ | sorry for the inconvenience | 20:08 |
KatolaZ | but we routinely check the IPs and the correct redirect behind deb.devuan.org | 20:08 |
KatolaZ | we should probably also check the FQDNs | 20:08 |
KatolaZ | thanks for pointing that out | 20:08 |
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