libera/#devuan/ Thursday, 2018-11-15

drwhiteHi folks, I can't get updates any more. Is there anything wrong with the Devuan files?01:53
drwhiteI get the error....01:53
drwhite E: Release file for http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/dists/ascii-security/InRelease is expired (invalid since 20min 3s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.01:53
Unit193The one I hit seems valid: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 11:07:12 UTC02:09
gnarfacedrwhite: just outdated dns entries based on outdated docs.  use deb.devuan.org instead of auto.mirror.devuan.org now02:11
drwhiteI'll try that again.02:12
drwhiteE: Release file for http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/ascii-security/InRelease is expired (invalid since 1h 5min 28s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.02:13
drwhiteE: Release file for http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/ascii/InRelease is expired (invalid since 1h 5min 30s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.02:13
gnarfacehmmm02:13
gnarfaceinteresting02:13
drwhiteyes.02:13
gnarfacewhat's your local time say now?02:13
drwhite23:1402:14
drwhiteit uses GMT02:14
drwhiteOr is that the issue?02:14
gnarfaceshouldn't be, unless you did it wrong02:14
gnarfacewait02:15
gnarfaceyou got that error running `apt-get update` not `apt-get upgrade` right?02:15
drwhite"apt update"02:15
gnarfacejust as a sanity check try it with apt-get instead but there shouldn't be a difference02:15
gnarfacei can't reproduce it here though02:16
drwhiteI use apt because I can do more with apt than I can with apt-get02:16
drwhiteI will try02:16
gnarfacethat's fine we're just doing sanity checks here02:16
gnarfacethey should both work02:16
drwhitesame thing02:16
gnarfaceok, do you have the `tzdata` package?02:16
gnarfaceone thing i think that could cause this is if you had set your system BIOS to a timezone other than what tzdata is configured to report02:17
drwhitetzdata command not found02:18
gnarfaceit's a package; `dpkg -l |grep tzdata`02:18
drwhiteahh okay, durr. my bad02:21
drwhiteyes it is there02:21
golinuxdrwhite: Use deb.devuan.org02:22
drwhiteI am02:23
drwhiteI set a timezone and all, not fixed02:23
golinuxAnd read the ascii release notes.  (If you had you would have known that02:23
golinuxThen what is this? http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/dists/ascii-security02:24
golinuxAh didn't scroll back far enough02:24
gnarfacedrwhite: question, if you run `date` right now, does it report the current time and timezone matching?02:33
gnarface(sorry for the delayed response)02:33
gnarfacejust fyi the command to change the timezone is `dpkg-reconfigure tzdata`02:35
gnarfaceit's probably worth also asking if your machine is dual-booting windows, which by default in most versions (last i heard anyway) will hose this by setting local time to the bios instead of UTC02:36
gnarface(there's a way to make it behave right now though, i just don't know how - some registry setting i think)02:36
drwhiteback, sorry, had someone come in the door.03:53
drwhitegnarface: it's actually now reporting "Fri 16 Nov 00:53:34 AEDT 2018"03:54
CriggieAustralian Eastern?03:54
drwhiteIt's updated from setting timezone.03:54
drwhiteBut I set the timezone and checked before it updated03:54
gnarfacedrwhite: what's important is that it's true03:57
gnarfaceif the time is wrong, it you may get false positives on stuff that checks expiration dates03:57
gnarfacethat will harm https too03:58
drwhiteThat was the issue. Just set date and time manually, and it's worked.03:58
drwhiteSomething so simple...03:58
gnarfacei recommend ntpd03:58
drwhitethanks a lot gnarface03:58
gnarfaceno problem03:58
drwhiteI need to get apt working to install ntp though03:58
drwhitecatch 2203:58
gnarfaceit should work now if the time is right03:59
gnarfaceif you're still getting errors about an outdated release file after that, i can only assume it's a problem with the actual repo you're using, but i am not seeing that problem here03:59
drwhiteThanks a lot.04:00
gnarfaceor, if you're using a caching proxy it may need to be flushed04:00
gnarfacei guess04:00
drwhiteI'll keep it in mind for alter04:00
gnarfacei'm assuming you'd know if you were04:00
drwhiteyup04:00
drwhiteI'm not dumb, but I just didn't think the date was the issue and all.. but it was.. live and learn.04:01
devoid_hey guys06:11
devoid_why does https://devuan.org/os/partners/steering-group06:11
devoid_link to https://example.org/vua06:11
gnarfacewhere do you see that ?06:19
gnarfacei don't know the answer06:26
golinuxdevoid_: That page is not linked to anywhere on the site though it's obviously lurking somewhere is the hairball06:37
golinuxThat was written over two years ago and that entire section is no accessible from the site itself.06:40
golinuxWhere did you find that link?06:43
devoid_golinux: on google08:10
devoid_https://i.imgur.com/f9vrN6J.png geoloc is hungary08:12
golinuxGoogle just doesn't know boundaries and goes where it shouldn't08:34
xrogaanKatolaZ: E: Release file for http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/dists/ascii-proposed/InRelease is expired (invalid since 52min 37s). Updates for this repository will not be applied13:00
xrogaanI should drop proposed, right?13:00
Wonka.oO( maybe a mirror that doesn't properly mirror, again... )13:03
KatolaZxrogaan: ?14:07
KatolaZhold on14:08
xrogaanIIRC the proposed repo isn't too relevant, yeah?14:09
KatolaZit is not14:09
KatolaZbut it's strange that it says it's expired14:09
xrogaanyour guess is a good as mine.14:33
Guest45hSooo, what's the status for this thing with "Release file for http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/dists/ascii-proposed/InRelease is expired (invalid since 3h 51min 25s)" when running "apt-get update"?15:01
James1138I do not know. I even tried YPPA Manager to fix any errors and find GPG keys.15:11
KatolaZGuest45h: is it possible to identify the actual mirror?15:22
Guest45hIf someone tells me how?15:23
KatolaZGuest45h: looking into that now15:24
KatolaZplease hold on15:24
KatolaZGuest45h: should be in place now15:32
KatolaZmight need up to 1 hour to propagate to the mirrors though15:32
Guest45hOK. Thanks!15:34
aggroray18:47
aggrorawrong window*18:47
premobossthere is a way, during apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade, to show a progress bar and/or percentage during "unpacking" phase? because during massive upgrading i must wait all the process in blind mode, it will be nice to see i.e. "processing package #34 of 129" or someting similar. is it possible? there are some option to pass to apt-get?20:44
fsmithredpremoboss, if you use apt instead of apt-get, you will have some kind of progress bar, but I don't know if it tells you what you want. (total progress)21:05
premobossfsmithred, tanks i will try at next upgrade :-)21:05

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