nemo | https://blog.erratasec.com/2018/10/systemd-is-bad-parsing-and-should-feel.html?m=1 | 02:35 |
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nemo | nice article on it | 02:36 |
nemo | including fix fails | 02:36 |
nemo | and this is not the first time they've screwed up networkd | 02:37 |
saptech | hello all | 02:03 |
saptech | I'm trying to use obmenu-generator to create icons for openbox menus. I need to have these perl requirements installed. https://github.com/trizen/obmenu-generator/blob/master/INSTALL.md | 02:07 |
saptech | how can I get the perl requirements installed? | 02:07 |
fsmithred | saptech, I think there might be instructions in the miyolinux thread at dev1galaxy.org | 02:08 |
fsmithred | probably near the beginning of that long thread | 02:08 |
saptech | ok, let me check. thanks | 02:08 |
saptech | fsmithred, is there a reason devuan will not include it in the repos? | 02:09 |
fsmithred | because it's not in debian AND nobody has offered to maintain it in devuan? That's my guess. | 02:10 |
saptech | ok | 02:10 |
fsmithred | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=28 | 02:11 |
saptech | thanks for the link, I was looking for it | 02:12 |
fsmithred | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1167 | 02:12 |
fsmithred | longer instructions involving a deb package | 02:12 |
fsmithred | first one looks easier - clone repo and issue one command | 02:12 |
stevelitt | Where can I obtain Devuan Ceres (unstable)? | 02:40 |
debdog | install AŜCII, alter sources.list, upgrade | 02:40 |
debdog | *ASCII | 02:41 |
saptech | whewwww, it was a challenge but finally got it working | 03:14 |
saptech | fsmithred, I guess I could have tried this link, https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=home%3AHead_on_a_Stick%3Aobmenu-generator&package=obmenu-generator | 03:21 |
stevelitt | Thanks debdog. Where are there step by step instructiions on how to do that? | 04:45 |
gnarface | stevelitt: it is the same process as upgrading to sid with debian | 04:49 |
gnarface | except you use the name ceres instead | 04:49 |
furrywolf | yet another remotely exploitable systemd bug... obviously bundling network handling into the init system was a great idea. | 05:32 |
xrogaan | always is! | 05:36 |
furrywolf | bbl, wolfy bedtime | 05:43 |
golinux | stevelitt: You still here? | 05:49 |
stevelitt | golinux, yeah | 07:16 |
stevelitt | gnarface, I never upgraded to sid. On Debian,I was strictly a stable kinda guy. | 07:21 |
gnarface | it's something you should avoid unless you have a good reason | 07:21 |
gnarface | (note to be clear i am not golinux) | 07:22 |
gnarface | i'm sure someone has written this down in a devuan-specific fashion somewhere | 07:23 |
gnarface | maybe on the forum | 07:23 |
gnarface | i assume that's what golinux was going to direct you to | 07:23 |
gnarface | i don't have such a link off the top of my head though, that's why i was just suggesting vaguely that Debian's wiki entry on the matter should be easy to find | 07:24 |
gnarface | i do recommend you make a backup first | 07:25 |
stevelitt | Thanks gnarface . Someone just gave simple and explicit instructions on the mailing list, I performed them, and now it kernel panics. | 07:25 |
stevelitt | I should have made a backup, forgot. That's OK, as I mentioned several times, the only daemon I had runitized was sshd. | 07:26 |
golinux | stevelitt: One thing to note. Unless something has changed, there are newer versions of the "kit stuff in ascii than in beowulf or ceres | 07:26 |
golinux | fsmithred wrote a nice post about upgrading on the fporum. I'll go find it | 07:27 |
golinux | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=12408#p12408 | 07:29 |
golinux | stevelitt: ^^^ | 07:29 |
golinux | That might be irrelevant if you're not using a full desktop. My main river is still jessie. I'm not very adventurous | 07:32 |
Wonka | has anyone noticed that weston is currently uninstallable in ceres? depends on libcolord2 >= 1.4.3, but only older versions (with +devuan version) available. | 18:21 |
xrogaan | "kit stuff"? | 19:01 |
debdog | like consolekit and such, I suppose | 19:02 |
fsmithred | she was being polite | 19:07 |
fsmithred | when I say it, the words rhyme | 19:07 |
stevelitt | My computer's making meganoise. I think I might have a dying hard disk. Now is the time to back up... | 19:12 |
fsmithred | smartctl -a /dev/sdX | 19:12 |
Xenguy | rsync is your friend | 19:12 |
buZz | stevelitt: nice actually | 19:12 |
buZz | just made me realize thats a feature SSDs are missing | 19:13 |
buZz | no audible prewarning of death ;) | 19:13 |
Xenguy | fsmithred: What does that do? | 19:14 |
fsmithred | gives you the smart data on the disk | 19:14 |
Xenguy | (Part of smartmontools here) | 19:14 |
Xenguy | huh | 19:15 |
buZz | Xenguy: correct | 19:15 |
buZz | SMART is a system to monitor harddrives internally | 19:15 |
buZz | the harddrives themselves can test them, but also log earlier faults | 19:16 |
buZz | like relocated sector count , etc | 19:16 |
Xenguy | Thanks folks, interesting | 19:16 |
buZz | or on my server's HDD 'G Sensor errors' :P (if you move the disk while spinning it'll complain) | 19:16 |
fsmithred | cool | 19:18 |
stevelitt | buZz, what's "nice"? rsync, the fact that I'm going to back up, or somethign else? | 21:51 |
stevelitt | By the way, my / is mounted on an ssd. | 21:52 |
stevelitt | I fell asleep before I could back up, but I just started backing up 5 minutes ago. Should be done in an hour. | 21:53 |
stevelitt | Whatever disk is getting backed up now sounds perfectly healthy. | 21:53 |
stevelitt | golinux, what's beowulf? | 21:53 |
stevelitt | And why couldn't I find it to download? | 21:54 |
nacelle | meganoise though? | 21:57 |
debdog | beowulf is the name of the next stable release. see table on https://devuan.org/ | 21:57 |
nacelle | meganoise is usually a fan going bad, no? | 21:57 |
nacelle | or something crawling in :( | 21:57 |
KatolaZ | stevelitt: beowulf is the current "testing" | 21:58 |
golinux | stevelitt: beowulf will be our 3rd stable release. | 22:00 |
stevelitt | I never saw any download links for beowulf. | 22:12 |
stevelitt | Hah, my backup finished. Let my computer explode, I don't care. | 22:13 |
golinux | stevelitt: There aren't any beowulf isos yet so follow the same procedure as to get seres. Change the sources.list relasename from ascii to beowulf. | 22:15 |
stevelitt | nacelle, could be a fan, although much of my air movement is via a top mounted 140mm slow-spin that I doubt would make much noise. | 22:16 |
golinux | oops ceres, of course. | 22:16 |
* golinux has fat fingers. | 22:17 | |
stevelitt | KatolaZ, golinux for both beowulf and ceres, why aren't there minimal install ISOs such that one doesn't need to start life with a major upgrade? | 22:17 |
nacelle | stevelitt: fans go bad | 22:17 |
nacelle | things fall into fans | 22:17 |
* nacelle thinks hard drive noise is pretty obvious, except 2.5" disks, because its nearly impossible to hear those from a few feet away anyways | 22:18 | |
nacelle | (but not all of them, especially the early ide 2.5" things in laptops of old) | 22:18 |
golinux | At this point beowulf's isn't ready for wide and ceres never is. And iso would become outdated in days. | 22:19 |
golinux | isn't ready for wide USE | 22:20 |
golinux | Hopefully we'll have a beta iso released by spring. | 22:20 |
kingsley | The latest systemd vulnerability seems to have elicited a favorable report of switching to devuan on Slashdot. https://news.slashdot.org/story/18/10/27/196227/new-systemd-vulnerability-discovered#comments | 22:42 |
KatolaZ | stevelitt: there is no install for unstable | 23:25 |
KatolaZ | never has been | 23:25 |
KatolaZ | and makes little sense | 23:25 |
KatolaZ | since unstable is updated on a daily basis | 23:25 |
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