| booyah | sadly, thunderbird sucks balls | 01:56 |
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| booyah | it can be extreamly slow | 01:56 |
| booyah | when working with emails with big attachments, or encrypted | 01:56 |
| Xenguy | booyah: Last I checked, 'sylpheed' was a fairly responsive email client, but I don't know if it has any particular limitations (does it do email in HTML format for example?) | 02:00 |
| Xenguy | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylpheed#Limitations | 02:02 |
| Xenguy | It does not send HTML formatted emails apparently | 02:02 |
| Xenguy | But it is possible to receive HTML formatted emails | 02:02 |
| djph | sure, they just won't be interpreted | 02:05 |
| djph | (i.e. you'll see all the HTML trash in them). | 02:05 |
| Xenguy | djph: Are you sure? | 02:06 |
| Xenguy | I thought it just translates the HTML to plain text? | 02:06 |
| djph | depends, mutt just shows all the HTML shit | 02:12 |
| golinux | booyah: What about claws mail? | 02:22 |
| Xenguy | golinux: Looks like Claws has the same limitation as noted above | 02:31 |
| Xenguy | (Although some, including the developers, see it as a feature) | 02:31 |
| golinux | I don't really notice because I don't do html webmail either. | 02:39 |
| booyah | btw, who ever invented html emails, should be gased | 02:56 |
| booyah | just saying how it is | 02:56 |
| nemo | booyah: most frustrating thing to me is the trend lately to not even bother with mime, nor with text plain fallback | 05:07 |
| nemo | booyah: so you just get HTML garbage in your mail client unless you activate sniffing | 05:08 |
| Xenguy | nemo: I was wondering about that plain text fallback... | 05:22 |
| Xenguy | It used to be standard, but I could see how it might fall into disuse... | 05:23 |
| Xenguy | I remember having mutt configured to view HTML-only emails via Lynx/Links/Elinks | 05:24 |
| Xenguy | That was probably the most fun times with email, as I loved that client... | 05:24 |
| Xenguy | But even the Great Eye, eventually succumbed to webmail | 05:24 |
| Xenguy | I had GPG going in mutt too, thanks to some random person who posted a tip somewhere | 05:25 |
| nemo | Xenguy: I still don't use webmail much | 05:34 |
| nemo | it's mostly trash these days, and stuff I'm actually interested in is still capable of plain text | 05:34 |
| nemo | my own domain I use curses client 99.9% of time, and a good... 98% of time I'm in gmail I'm in w3m.... | 05:35 |
| Xenguy | I'm the same way, love the clever ncurses apps | 05:35 |
| nemo | fired up gmail in a regular browser the other day and got a shock. didn't recognise interface at all. spent about 20 seconds poking around for the "classic interface" setting | 05:35 |
| nemo | ♥ ssh+tmux | 05:35 |
| nemo | ssh+tmux+cim5+w3m+alpine+irssi - don't start on alpine - it's habit. started using it in '96 and too lazy to change my configs | 05:36 |
| nemo | I'll agree it's not the best | 05:36 |
| Xenguy | Yeah, I find it requires rote learning (for the hot keys), but after that it's greased lightning : -) | 05:36 |
| nemo | I do have gpg working in alpine too | 05:36 |
| nemo | although very rarely use it. one whole time last year. | 05:36 |
| Xenguy | bonux | 05:36 |
| Xenguy | er, bonus | 05:36 |
| Xenguy | Too bad about GPG's lack of popularity | 05:37 |
| Xenguy | In a parallel universe, everybody is using cos 'duh!' | 05:37 |
| nemo | ☺ | 05:38 |
| buZz | wow so fast? | 12:11 |
| PinkBellyNagger | I'm going to reimage one of my pi3's. Has anyone tried devuan on a pi? | 13:46 |
| PinkBellyNagger | I basically need xrdp & sshd, other than that standard tools + gcc, python etc. | 13:47 |
| PinkBellyNagger | I guess I just download the arm64 port? | 13:50 |
| PinkBellyNagger | I'll give this a go now, don't want to spend too much time faffing about, but will report results if anyone is interested. | 13:50 |
| fsmithred | PinkBellyNagger, there are people running devuan on rpi | 13:50 |
| fsmithred | try #devuan-arm (I think that's right) | 13:51 |
| PinkBellyNagger | thanks fsmithred. f**k systemd | 13:53 |
| PinkBellyNagger | I found this pretty good guide: https://friendsofdevuan.org/doku.php/rpi | 13:56 |
| aggrora | PinkBellyNagger: I use devuan on rpi, works great. Though to ethernet-cable shortage atm I have not done much more than installed the few packages I wanted. Next is to figure out why or how I make use of the whole sd-card, as it now seems only to use about 20% of my 16GB.. | 17:22 |
| gnarface | aggrora: gparted might be the easiest option to grow the partition | 19:19 |
| gnarface | (from another machine the SD card is plugged into that didn't boot from it) | 19:20 |
| aggrora | gnarface: Thanks for the tip. I right-clicked on the partition and choosed "check". It seems to figured out what to do with the leftover space by it self, I will boot it up and check. | 20:04 |
| aggrora | ha! It worked :) | 20:12 |
| golinux | gparted is really smart. | 20:13 |
| aggrora | yes, but apperently xfce4 would not prompt me about sudo and would'nt start, so I had to run it from terminal, do you need to do the same? | 20:19 |
| gnarface | i'm not even using sudo | 20:25 |
| gnarface | but i think the package you want for that is called gksudo? | 20:26 |
| gnarface | i think there's a couple different ones actually but i forget what they're called | 20:26 |
| aggrora | gksu was alreday installed and I can run it, maybe xfce just dosent catch it or something. But can you run gparted just like that? When I try in terminal it tells me command does not exists, but with sudo it does, like ifconfig | 20:44 |
| Ryccardo | aggrora: edit /etc/profile, edit the lines at the top to have only one path instead of one for superusers and one for others (the first thing I change, probably) | 20:55 |
| gnarface | i feel like there might be some combination of polkit parts that sets it up for you too? not sure, i never use the stuff | 20:57 |
| golinux | aggrora: See https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=11602#p11602 | 21:00 |
| aggrora | Ryccardo: Ok, I commented out the whole if-statment in /etc/profile and just kept PATH from user not = 0 before the "export PATH", do I need to login and logout for this to set? And also, will zsh use this? | 21:02 |
| Ryccardo | 1- yeah, or set it manually for now 2- no idea | 21:04 |
| aggrora | brb | 21:14 |
| golinux | aggora: This explanation just posted on DNG so not in the archives quite yet: | 21:19 |
| golinux | pkexec uses polycy-kit (for the sole benefit of alowing to use it without a password). | 21:19 |
| golinux | gksu doesn't need policy-kit, this is obviously why it has been obsoleted by the kit fans. | 21:19 |
| golinux | fsmithred: ^^^ | 21:19 |
| aggrora | golinux: aah ok | 21:21 |
| golinux | That explains a LOT. | 21:21 |
| aggrora | Alright,, I'm not quiet 100% sure about this but everything now work as expected when I for example run gparted from the appmenu in xfce4. A prompt comes up and I use my user-password and it launches. | 21:38 |
| aggrora | It seems that xfce4 does nto have an agent for pkexec, so I installed policykit-1-gnome | 21:38 |
| aggrora | golinux: I would like to read what you find on DNG, do you have any link or such so I can check it out when it is archived? | 21:40 |
| * aggrora don't know about DNG :) | 21:41 | |
| golinux | aggrora: The discussion starts here: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20180831.145445.764d13ad.en.html | 21:43 |
| aggrora | Thanks! Hmm, that is quiet an interesting question he asks | 21:44 |
| golinux | I use gksu all the time. I'm sure that the team will work this out when work gets underway on beowulf. | 21:46 |
| aggrora | Yes, well it does not really seem as one is better than the other, or have any sercurity-critical features that the other don't. It seems it only comes down to preferens. | 22:02 |
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