stqn | besides apt update && apt upgrade from time to time, is there something that should be done to maintain my system? | 00:33 |
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JudicialWatch | you can enable automatic security updates | 00:34 |
JudicialWatch | stqn: review your log files and check your disk usage to make sure its not filling up... | 00:36 |
JudicialWatch | other than that...im not sure | 00:36 |
stqn | great | 00:36 |
KatolaZ | stqn: you should include -updates and -security in your sources.list | 00:36 |
stqn | uh | 00:37 |
stqn | KatolaZ: do you mean ascii-updates and ascii-security? they are already enabled | 00:40 |
stqn | I was wondering if for example I needed to remove old stuff manually (like kernels that never disappear on ubuntu). Maybe apt autoremove. | 00:41 |
JudicialWatch | hmm yeah you may have to remove kernels | 00:42 |
JudicialWatch | i have seen that hose things before | 00:42 |
JudicialWatch | mostly because /boot was too small to hold them all | 00:42 |
stqn | yeah, it's incredible canonical never did anything about that... and the error message when that happens is totally unclear | 00:43 |
stqn | does it also happen on debian/devuan? | 00:43 |
JudicialWatch | im not sure my devuan even has a kernel package installed | 00:45 |
JudicialWatch | but im on embedded | 00:45 |
JudicialWatch | compiled my own kernel | 00:45 |
stqn | I see | 00:51 |
KatolaZ | stqn: it depends on whether you installed linux-image-ARCH or linux-image-VERSION | 00:55 |
KatolaZ | in the first case you will get updated kernels | 00:56 |
KatolaZ | but you always need to purge old kernels by hand | 00:56 |
KatolaZ | and for very good reasons | 00:56 |
KatolaZ | I wouldn't use a distro that removes a kernel automatically | 00:57 |
KatolaZ | that would be called windows :P | 00:57 |
stqn | I think that filling up the user's HDD inexorably is more like windows than removing useless and obsolete kernels | 00:59 |
JudicialWatch | ive had windows systems hosed from too many updates kept too heh | 01:00 |
KatolaZ | JudicialWatch: keeping more than one kernel installed won't ever hurt you | 01:01 |
KatolaZ | especially because they cannot run at the same time :) | 01:01 |
JudicialWatch | ive had to use recovery mode to clean up the mess, but i dont remember the details | 01:01 |
KatolaZ | libraries are a different beast though | 01:01 |
JudicialWatch | on linux | 01:01 |
KatolaZ | JudicialWatch: if you use only official repos you shouldn't ever need anything like that | 01:02 |
KatolaZ | unless you are on unstable | 01:02 |
JudicialWatch | i dont know, im just the fixer | 01:02 |
KatolaZ | and still, it would be pretty rare anyway | 01:02 |
JudicialWatch | people have some old ass ubuntu systems out there | 01:02 |
Centurion_Dan | JudicialWatch: that's because the older stuff didn't have as much crap in them... | 01:51 |
stqn | if you make a 100MB /boot partition it won't take 5 years to fill it with kernels | 02:00 |
golinux | <KatolaZ> JudicialWatch: keeping more than one kernel installed won't ever hurt you | 02:08 |
gnarface | stqn: (in that case it wouldn't give you any kernels at all except when explicitly asked, though) | 02:09 |
golinux | My jessie has never kept an old kernel. I have no idea where to tell it to save one. | 02:09 |
levente | hey, you guys won't like me but I have another nvidia problem and anything I found on the internet does not work | 13:52 |
levente | So, I'm using a different monitor now, but it uses a VGA connection, but my GPU doesn't have such ports, so I use and adapter which makes it's EDID data unreadable | 13:53 |
levente | I tried to make the needed resolution avaliable with the xconfig but the log simply says "No valid modes for "CRT-0:1920x1080"; removing." | 13:54 |
djph | sounds more like an issue with the adapter than the monitor or the graphics card | 13:55 |
levente | Yeah, it's a pain in the ass | 13:55 |
levente | I don't think it can pass the edid data without an active adapter though | 13:57 |
djph | no idea, I haven't had a desktop in ages :| | 13:58 |
Centurion_Dan | levente: your probably looking in the wrong place... I'd expect your plugging into the DVI port with a vga adaptor, it would register as a DVI display and not a CRT. | 23:00 |
fromport | anyone has an idea for this: running ceres on a 27"imac. when I make a screenshot, i hear an actual "shuttersound" through my speakers. I can play audio/video with eg vlc or mpv, works. But I am not able to play any sound from my browser (eg youtube) video part moves, but no audio whatsoever. any suggestions ? | 23:34 |
gnarface | firefox requires pulseaudio | 23:35 |
gnarface | but you can use apulse | 23:35 |
gnarface | that's a relatively recent change to firefox | 23:35 |
gnarface | firefox-esr used to not require it but just now does as well | 23:35 |
gnarface | kinda weak, IMO | 23:35 |
gnarface | apulse works and it's small | 23:35 |
fromport | remove pulseaudio and install apulse ? | 23:36 |
fromport | i have apulse installed but it is not running | 23:38 |
gnarface | no no | 23:39 |
gnarface | if you have pulseaudio already installed, it should work | 23:39 |
gnarface | maybe check the volumes in pavucontrol? i think they're separate for every program... i dunno, i don't actually use it | 23:39 |
fromport | https://pastebin.com/LJGzM7hr | 23:39 |
fromport | pavucontrol won't let me 'unmute' | 23:40 |
gnarface | interesting | 23:40 |
gnarface | pulseaudio is running, right? | 23:40 |
fromport | no | 23:40 |
gnarface | oh, well that probably explains it | 23:40 |
fromport | pavucontrol _at the moment_ cant connect to pulseaudio | 23:41 |
gnarface | apulse is a pass-through though, it doesn't run like a daemon | 23:41 |
fromport | it could earlier | 23:41 |
gnarface | for apulse you'd just run it like this: apulse firefox-esr & | 23:41 |
gnarface | or whatever your browser is | 23:41 |
gnarface | then it would go by alsa settings, assuming pulseaudio is NOT running | 23:42 |
fromport | ahh... | 23:42 |
fromport | i started "apulse firefox-trunk" as my own userid and this happens : https://pastebin.com/shVnLeds | 23:45 |
fromport | will try and debug each of the errors | 23:45 |
gnarface | hmmm, seems like something is wrong with your alsa config | 23:46 |
gnarface | do you have some customization in ~/.asoundrc maybe? | 23:46 |
gnarface | default seems to be overridden to something that doesn't support rate conversions | 23:47 |
gnarface | probably hw:0,0 or similar | 23:47 |
fromport | will look, thanks for the hint | 23:48 |
gnarface | it could just be a permissions error but other programs working with the same user suggests otherwise | 23:48 |
gnarface | you'll want "default" to be something that supports dmix | 23:49 |
gnarface | which the stock default *does* | 23:49 |
fromport | $ find . -name .asound\* <- no hits, so I don't think I have a personalized config | 23:49 |
gnarface | or at least should unless something has gone wrong with the driver which... also doesn't seem to be the case if other programs work | 23:49 |
gnarface | oh, it wouldn't matter whether the config was personalized or not | 23:49 |
fromport | so could a general as well ? | 23:50 |
gnarface | did you change the system configurations in /etc/ or in /usr/share/alsa? | 23:50 |
gnarface | i mean the alsa config | 23:50 |
fromport | not recently afaik, but this problem has been going on for at least 4+ months | 23:50 |
gnarface | hmmm | 23:50 |
fromport | it seems have changed ;-) https://pastebin.com/rJtxr40T | 23:51 |
gnarface | well i don't know what to make of that | 23:53 |
gnarface | but try this: APULSE_PLAYBACK_DEVICE=plug:dmix apulse firefox-trunk | 23:53 |
gnarface | that should be effectively the same thing as the defaults, but why your defaults are wrong may be a separate issue | 23:56 |
fromport | tha works !!!! | 23:56 |
gnarface | ok cool | 23:56 |
gnarface | have you noticed not being able to play two audio programs at once? | 23:56 |
gnarface | or at least, not being able to have two programs both make sound at once? | 23:57 |
fromport | ehh no, not really ;-) | 23:57 |
gnarface | hmm | 23:57 |
gnarface | does that mean you have never tried, or does that mean it works? | 23:58 |
fromport | probably never tried ;-) | 23:58 |
gnarface | well if it doesn't work, that means something is whack with your alsa config. it could be a bug in the driver or the alsa install itself, or it could be self-inflicted. | 23:58 |
fromport | *awesome* you know how rich it feels to be able to play music again in browser after 4 months ? ;-) | 23:58 |
gnarface | i'm so sorry you've been living with this problem that long | 23:58 |
fromport | could I purge alsa and install with default config ? | 23:59 |
fromport | i would have NEVER found this without your help | 23:59 |
gnarface | eh, i'm really just not sure, because only knowing the information you've provided so far it could just be a bug in your apulse version too | 23:59 |
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