Liebach | Goodmorning. So, I'm getting my new Dell XPS 15 today, I hope. It comes preinstalled with Windows, and I want to dual boot. It's been almost a decade since I last dual booted anything, so what's the cool kids using for a boot manager nowadays? How do I best resize the Windows partition to make room for Devuan? | 07:33 |
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holla | Liebach: gparted, since win doesn't know how to - honestly, my new ultrabook came with preinstalled win10 and although it only consumed sth around 10gb win won't let me shrink the partition below 120gb | 07:39 |
holla | afterwards you can just install devuan - grub will detect your win and add it to the boot menu | 07:40 |
Liebach | holla: Cool, that sounds pretty easy. Thanks. | 07:43 |
holla | yw | 07:50 |
Pr0metheus | after migrating to devuan from debian stretch network-manager was removed and replaced by wicd. ifupdown package was removed so my loopback interface does not come up. I can bring it up manually with ip link set lo up. How is your loopback setup to come up on system boot? | 09:57 |
detha | in /etc/interfaces there is: | 10:08 |
detha | auto lo | 10:08 |
detha | iface lo inet loopback | 10:08 |
Liebach | holla: Windows 10 built-in Disk Management has the ability to shrink volume and extend volume. Probably safer to use a Windows 10 native tool than gparted. | 10:15 |
Liebach | https://www.easeus.com/partition-master/resize-partition-windows-10.html | 10:15 |
Pr0metheus | detha do you have ifupdown installed on your system? | 10:24 |
detha | Pr0metheus: yes | 10:25 |
Pr0metheus | ok thank you | 10:25 |
baimafeima | hello, will Devuan eventually be listed here? https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html | 13:11 |
debdog | probably never https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html | 13:16 |
debdog | mainly section "Nonfree Firmware" | 13:16 |
cehteh | mhm the mdadm --monitor starts to stick at 100% cpu here after it run for some time, anyone have a idea what can cause that? | 14:01 |
hoshineko | hello, how viable is it to run devuan beowulf?, what are the things that don't work on it? | 20:40 |
gnarface | hoshineko: people are doing it but it's not advised unless you want to help test broken packages | 20:42 |
gnarface | i can't tell you for sure what's broken right now but the safest bets are on stuff that depended on systemd | 20:43 |
hoshineko | i see | 20:44 |
gnarface | the truth is it's probably so broken right now you're better off running ceres instead | 20:45 |
gnarface | but ymmv | 20:45 |
gnarface | ascii is very good and you should run that instead unless you have a very good reason | 20:45 |
gnarface | (support for bleeding-edge hardware or commercial software are the typical exceptions) | 20:46 |
hoshineko | how is flatpak in devuan?, i only need flatpak for 1 package but last time i tried it on devuan it was broken, but that might've been something specific to that package (maybe it depended on systemd?) | 20:49 |
gnarface | sorry, i don't know anything about it, but if the problem was with systemd, then it should be fixed in ascii. after ascii it's still up in the air as far as i know | 20:50 |
Centurion_Dan | hoshineko: 1, beowulf isn't receiving much love yet - not really enough there to run it. | 22:02 |
Centurion_Dan | hoshineko: 2, flatpack is a complete containerised app like docker.. | 22:02 |
Centurion_Dan | don't use them they are a security disaster waiting to happen... | 22:03 |
Centurion_Dan | so it seems that sysvinit is getting a new lease on life: https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/sysvinit | 23:04 |
Centurion_Dan | apparently Jessie Smith of distrowatch has taken up maintainership. | 23:07 |
Centurion_Dan | http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/sysvinit.git/log/ | 23:07 |
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