libera/#devuan/ Wednesday, 2018-05-23

DocScrutinizer05lo'09:26
xrogaan!help09:46
xrogaanHow can we get the infobot commands?09:47
DocScrutinizer05logs on http://maemo.cloud-7.de/irclogs/freenode/_devuan/10:34
DocScrutinizer05xrogaan: you already got them, in query though10:35
xrogaanRight, didn't notice. Sorry and thanks.10:42
DocScrutinizer05np10:58
Squartinohow do i check if raspberry pi kernel is compiled with ARM64_CRYPTO ?12:15
KatolaZSquartino: cat /boot/config-$(uname -r)12:17
parazydj4712:23
parazydoops12:23
rrqKatolaZ: pm12:57
doomcupHeya. I just did a fresh install of devuan ASCII and I'm having a problem. I setup the system without a root password, but when I try to mount my other hard drives, it still asks for a root password20:36
doomcupMy research tells me that this has something to do with polkit. How do I get it to use my user's password instead of the root password?20:37
doomcupSudo is installed, and I'm already in the sudo group20:37
KatolaZdoomcup: which DE are you using?20:37
doomcupThe default XFCE20:38
KatolaZyou should have the consolekit-backend for polkit installed20:38
doomcupI do see a consolekit package as installed20:39
doomcupBut what do I need to do to have whatever XFCE uses to mount drives use my password instead of a root password that doesn't exist?20:40
gnarfacewith the right package you wouldn't need to type a password20:41
doomcupIt's prompting me for the root password. What package do I need?20:41
gnarfacei don't remember the exact name20:42
gnarfaceprobably not the one you have though20:42
KatolaZdoomcup: did you install XFCE from tasksel?20:42
doomcupYes20:42
KatolaZIrrwahn: ^^^^20:42
doomcupOkay, I fixed it. I made a file at /etc/polkit-1/localauthority.conf.d/90-mandatoryauthority.conf with the text "AdminIdentities=unix-group:sudo" and it's working like it should20:48
gnarfaceinteresting20:48
doomcupI'm puzzled why that didn't just happen at install when no root password was provided20:48
KatolaZdoomcup: that is going to be fixed in the new version of polkit20:56
KatolaZI didn't know it affected also mounting20:56
KatolaZit does affect pkexec apparently20:56
doomcupI'm just glad I could fix it with half an hour of google searching and rifling through a few man pages20:58
KatolaZsorry doomcup20:59
KatolaZdidn't know it was related20:59
KatolaZ(to the other known glitch)20:59
doomcupNo problem. We all have days like that. :)20:59
doomcupWhat other known glitch?20:59
KatolaZdoomcup: pkexec has the same problem21:04
fsmithreddoomcup: cat ~/.su-to-rootrc21:11
fsmithredyou probably want it to say SU_TO_ROOT=sudo21:12
doomcupI have no such file21:12
fsmithredoh, ok21:13
doomcupI'll keep that in mind, though. If my fix suddenly stops, it'll be nice to have an alternative.21:13
fsmithredI'm not sure where that file comes from.21:14
doomcupFeels like a kludge, from what you described21:14
fsmithredok, it comes from live-config21:14
doomcupMaybe that's it. I didn't use a live disc to install devuan21:15
doomcupI used the installer DVD21:15
fsmithredit's meant to work during a live session. I have it in my installed systems because refractainstaller copies it21:15
mchasardhi21:24
mchasardi'm under fluxuan ... as its minimalist21:24
mchasardi have to install some apps21:25
mchasardwhich one could i add as image viewer ?21:25
golinuxI like different viewers for different tasks.21:26
muepemacs for everything21:26
golinuxLOL!21:26
mchasardjust a small program and mpv is lighter as video player ?21:27
muepjust in case you were wondering, it can view images and pdf files too21:27
mchasardemacs ?21:27
msiismmchasard: feh21:41
debdogqiv, doesn't even have a gui21:43
msiismmchasard: mpv depends on libsmbclient, which will pull in about 20MB of samba-libs.21:44
msiismso does mplayer, btw.21:44
debdogor xzgv, if a gui and preview is required21:44
mchasardhow to get right to current user to mount usb volume ?21:44
mchasardits same with optical drive .. i have to be root to mount them21:45
msiismmchasard: pmount21:45
mchasardpmount?21:45
msiismmchasard: let's unprivileged user mount rmovable media.21:46
mchasardi'm under pcmanfm21:46
mchasardhum could you help me please ?21:46
msiismmchasard: ok, that does not support pmount. you need gvfs and some correct polcykit rule.21:46
mchasardi havve to install gvfs ?21:46
mchasardok21:47
msiismmchasard: i've given up on that and just use pmount from the cli. but: xfe and spacefm support pmount, afaik.21:47
msiismmchasard: i it's not there, yes.21:47
mchasardi verify21:47
mchasardits why it work only as root ?21:47
mchasardalready installed21:48
mchasardnot authorized to perform operation to mount this usb drive21:48
msiismprobably, i'm not really an expert with this stuff. but if you do not have gvfs, you will need it.21:49
mchasardits just a right question o believe21:53
mchasardi have to check21:53
msiismdebdog: i'll put your suggestions into the wiki page about software for minimalist desktop environments. thanks.22:03
debdogk22:03
NewGnuGuy mchasard: Image viewers: Try sxiv22:17
mchasardsxiv ok ....i 'll have a look22:18
msiismNewGnuGuy: i just discovered that. amazing. and smaller than all the others.22:18
mchasardthanks22:18
mchasardits minimalist ?22:19
msiismtotally22:19
msiismbut packs quite some functionality22:19
mchasardhum ok22:20
msiismfeh is even bigger than qiv and xzgv... but i use it to set my background image.22:20
aitormchasard: you asked about how to get right to current user to mount usb volume22:38
aitorpmount does it in refracta22:39
aitori'm working on another one22:39
debdogdang, sxiv is neat! except with a german keyboard it's a bit laborious22:39
msiismdebdog: why that?22:42
debdoglots of <shift>s and <Alt Gr>s involved22:42
msiismok22:43
abcabc_fsmithred: hi. should i expect any trouble for running refracta installer on ascii live desktop in expert mode?22:53
aitori'm having dinner, see you later23:02
opvquestion: i'm looking to install virtualbox, and i'd like to do it via repos. can i "just" add the repo for debian stretch?23:17
obeardlyopv: I'm running ascii and I was able to install from the Devuan repos.23:21
obeardlyNo extra repo needed.23:21
opvobeardly: i have main, contrib and nonfree, but virtualbox was not found in the repos23:22
obeardlyAre you on ascii?23:22
obeardlyopv: My mistake. It's in backports.23:23
obeardlydeb http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-backports main contrib non-free23:23
opvobeardly: thx23:24
obeardlyopv: Anytime.23:24
opvunrelated, i really like the new kde plasma. very neat23:27
opvusually i run gnome, but this is much better. wasn't always the case23:27
aitorhi again23:41
aitori backported only a few packages from ascii to gnuinos jessie, here you are the list:23:47
aitordbhelper, dpkg-dev, ffmpeg, tar, runit and squashfs-tools23:47
aitor*debhelper23:48
aitorand some other packages related with debhelper like dh-runit...23:50

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