AlolaPikachu | Hi | 16:00 |
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plasma41 | o/ | 16:01 |
AlolaPikachu | I'm trying to dist-upgrade to Ceres but getting a weird issue, it's telling me that packages depend on x11-common which isn't going to be installed | 16:01 |
AlolaPikachu | But it's already installed | 16:01 |
AlolaPikachu | https://pastebin.com/xhSpbcTd | 16:02 |
plasma41 | AlolaPikachu: Maybe a specific version is required? | 16:02 |
AlolaPikachu | I'm coming over from Arch so my apt-fu isn't exactly great. | 16:02 |
AlolaPikachu | Yeah, that's what I'm thinking, apt upgrade has a lot of packages held back but x11-common isn't in that list. That's why I assumed I needed to do dist-upgrade | 16:03 |
plasma41 | Maybe you have an out of date cache. Does 'apt-get update' help? | 16:04 |
AlolaPikachu | Is there a difference between apt and apt-get or are they aliased? | 16:04 |
plasma41 | apt is quasi-wrapper around the various apt-* commands | 16:05 |
AlolaPikachu | Ah OK, in that case no, apt update doesn't help. I ran that just before apt dist-upgrade. | 16:05 |
plasma41 | What does `aptitude why-not x11-common` respond with? | 16:06 |
AlolaPikachu | Manually installed, current version 1:7.7+19, priority optional | 16:07 |
AlolaPikachu | No dependencies require to remove x11-common | 16:07 |
plasma41 | ceres is by nature unstable. It's not unusual for dist-upgrading to it to not error out. | 16:09 |
plasma41 | For visualizing dependency issues, aptitude can be a great tool. | 16:10 |
plasma41 | In aptitude, 'b' jumps to the next broken package | 16:10 |
plasma41 | pika pika | 16:18 |
AlolaPikachu | Sorry about that. | 16:21 |
AlolaPikachu | Yeah, I'm just wondering if someone else here has had/resolved the issue | 16:21 |
plasma41 | pika pika | 16:21 |
plasma41 | I think most folks here expect a dist-upgrade to unstable to be a rocky road. | 16:23 |
AlolaPikachu | Understood, I mostly just want a newer kernel to fix the i915 issues on gen 8 i7 | 16:23 |
plasma41 | AlolaPikachu: In that case I'd recommend just installing a newer kernel from testing/unstable and leaving the rest of the system as is. | 16:26 |
AlolaPikachu | I mean right now I'm on a frankenstein system with a bunch of packages from ceres but no dist-upgrade | 16:36 |
AlolaPikachu | If anyone does have advice for getting onto full ceres, that'd be really useful, I'm having to do horrible things like compile npm from scratch right now. | 17:27 |
plasma41 | AlolaPikachu: My system is in between ASCII and Beowulf. 1925 packages installed. 62.3% ASCII and 37.7% Beowulf | 17:56 |
AlolaPikachu | Is there a place to browse available packages per release? | 17:58 |
plasma41 | AlolaPikachu: There's the Packages files at http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/dist/[RELEASE_NAME]/main/binary-[ARCH]/Packages.[gz|xz] | 18:15 |
telmich | is it possible that the certificate of deb.devuan.org is wrong? | 18:56 |
telmich | * subject: C=DE; ST=Bayern; L=Erlangen; O=Friedrich-Alexander-Universitaet Erlangen-Nuernberg; OU=RRZE; CN=ftp.fau.de | 18:56 |
telmich | from [18:55] line:~% curl -Iv https://deb.devuan.org/ | 18:56 |
detha | that is perfectly normal. Random cert from a round-robin mirror | 19:10 |
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