fsmithred | mini.iso is dead | 13:01 |
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KatolaZ | fsmithred: ? | 13:02 |
KatolaZ | ok, 4.19.0-2 migrated to buster | 13:04 |
KatolaZ | we can rebuild the installer :) | 13:04 |
KatolaZ | fsmithred: give me 30 minutes, and it will be back | 13:04 |
fsmithred | cool! I didn't expect it so fast. | 13:09 |
KatolaZ | it's building already :P | 13:10 |
fsmithred | is there a way to include the modules on the media so this doesn't keep happening? | 13:10 |
KatolaZ | I was just waiting for the new abi to migrate to buster | 13:10 |
KatolaZ | what do you mean? | 13:10 |
fsmithred | kernel/module mis-match happens a lot | 13:10 |
KatolaZ | no way with mini.iso | 13:11 |
KatolaZ | that's why it's mini.iso :) | 13:11 |
KatolaZ | modules are available in netinst | 13:11 |
fsmithred | doesn't this same problem happen with netinst isos? | 13:11 |
fsmithred | I can't remember for sure | 13:12 |
KatolaZ | nope, it shouldn't IIRC | 13:12 |
KatolaZ | positive, modules are in the install media in netinst | 13:13 |
fsmithred | I might be remembering attempts with d-i on live isos | 13:14 |
KatolaZ | they are in pool/DEBIAN/main/l/linux | 13:14 |
fsmithred | if that path is added to the mini.iso, will the installer find it? | 13:15 |
KatolaZ | same in jessie, BTW | 13:16 |
KatolaZ | fsmithred: why? | 13:16 |
fsmithred | more to the point, can I add the modules to the mini.iso on the usb image I made? | 13:16 |
KatolaZ | fiddling with the debian-installer package is a total mess | 13:16 |
fsmithred | the image has the contents of the mini.isos, not the iso files themselves | 13:17 |
KatolaZ | I don't think it is possible to add modules afterwards | 13:17 |
KatolaZ | you need to re-create the repo | 13:17 |
KatolaZ | and re-sign the corresponding Release files | 13:17 |
fsmithred | I'd like to try it, but I guess I won't know if it works until next kernel change. | 13:19 |
KatolaZ | fsmithred: actually, the Release files are unsigned in netinst | 13:19 |
KatolaZ | well, you can easily see if it works | 13:20 |
KatolaZ | just disable the networks | 13:20 |
KatolaZ | s/networks/network | 13:20 |
fsmithred | oh, ok | 13:20 |
KatolaZ | but anyway, you need to create the Packages files | 13:20 |
KatolaZ | and amend the repo accordingly | 13:20 |
KatolaZ | it's not enough to add stuff under pool/ | 13:20 |
fsmithred | those are things on the netinstall that aren't on the mini? | 13:21 |
KatolaZ | yes | 13:24 |
KatolaZ | the mini has no repo on board | 13:24 |
KatolaZ | the netinst has a repo for base-system | 13:24 |
KatolaZ | the 200 packages in the minimal debian system | 13:25 |
KatolaZ | plus kernel modules | 13:25 |
KatolaZ | fsmithred: you can get the latest mini.iso now | 14:00 |
KatolaZ | oops | 14:01 |
KatolaZ | does not look like that though... | 14:01 |
KatolaZ | mmmhhh | 14:01 |
KatolaZ | hold on | 14:01 |
KatolaZ | Centurion_Dan: https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/unstable/main/installer-ppc64el/current/ | 14:06 |
KatolaZ | ppc64el installer | 14:06 |
KatolaZ | please have a go at it | 14:06 |
KatolaZ | ;) | 14:06 |
KatolaZ | (I knot it's night down there though) | 14:07 |
fsmithred | so are i386 and amd64 ok? | 14:12 |
KatolaZ | fsmithred: rebuulding | 14:13 |
KatolaZ | rebuilding | 14:13 |
KatolaZ | will be ready in 10 minutes | 14:13 |
KatolaZ | just have a look on #devuan-ci | 14:13 |
KatolaZ | bbl | 14:14 |
KatolaZ | o/ | 14:14 |
KatolaZ | fsmithred: mini.iso updated | 14:57 |
KatolaZ | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/unstable/main/installer-amd64/current/ | 14:57 |
KatolaZ | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/unstable/main/installer-i386/current/ | 14:57 |
KatolaZ | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/unstable/main/installer-ppc64el/current/ | 14:57 |
KatolaZ | bbl | 14:57 |
KatolaZ | o/ | 14:57 |
fsmithred | yeah, I got it already, thanks! | 14:59 |
fsmithred | not sure if it's me or the installer - I'm having trouble setting up encrypted lvm | 16:45 |
fsmithred | select partition to be used as encrypted volume | 16:45 |
fsmithred | try to continue (finish) and it complains that no mountpoint for root | 16:45 |
fsmithred | I can configure lvm, but then it's not encrypted. | 16:46 |
fsmithred | can't seem to get to the place where it asks me for the passphrase. Going to try again. | 16:46 |
KatolaZ | dunno | 16:50 |
fsmithred | ok, it works if I delete the partition and re-create it first. | 17:23 |
fsmithred | not sure if that's new behavior or not | 17:24 |
fsmithred | tried to delete a logical volume right after making it (to make it a different size) and get error: Volume group inVGvol0 not found. The actual name of the volume group is vol0. | 17:28 |
fsmithred | left it at the original size and continued. Seems to be working. | 17:36 |
LeePen | Hi. | 18:10 |
LeePen | I am just writing an email to the dev list about our slim packages. | 18:10 |
LeePen | Who is our consolekit guru? | 18:12 |
fsmithred | probably Dan | 18:33 |
fsmithred | there's a consolekit 1.2.1-4 in ceres and experimental. It's not in sid. It does not have "devuan" in the version, and I can't find consolekit at git.devuan.org. What's up with that? | 18:41 |
LeePen | fsmithred: Yes. I wonder how much we need it now as Debian have dropped consolekit. There are very few dependencies and most are elogind|consolekit. | 18:47 |
fsmithred | I wouldn't mind if we dropped slim, too. | 18:49 |
fsmithred | I have to go. bbl. | 18:49 |
golinux | LeePen: Don't we have consolekit2? | 18:52 |
LeePen | golinux: Hi. Ah I see that now. Thanks. | 18:55 |
LeePen | That explains why there is no +devuan in the versions. | 18:56 |
golinux | FWIW, I really like slim and it's working in beowulf | 18:57 |
golinux | with Xfce. | 18:57 |
LeePen | Yes, but that is the point of my email: those are the Debian pacakges. | 18:57 |
KatolaZ | consolekit in ceres is from devuan | 18:59 |
KatolaZ | the source package is called consolekit2 | 19:00 |
KatolaZ | but the binary is consolekit | 19:00 |
KatolaZ | so it is indeed consolekit2 | 19:00 |
KatolaZ | we decided to leave the binary name as "consolekit" a few months ago, when Centurion_Dan started working on it | 19:00 |
golinux | I am still pretty confused about the policykit/consolekit stuff. My take away is that different WM require different backends and they are mutually exclusive. | 19:01 |
KatolaZ | LeePen: there is no slim in beowulf | 19:01 |
KatolaZ | but there are devuan versions for ascii, jessie, and unstable | 19:01 |
LeePen | KatolaZ: well only the merged Debian one | 19:02 |
KatolaZ | the version number in ascii is not a major problem | 19:02 |
LeePen | I agree, I just noticed it in passing | 19:02 |
KatolaZ | since we can bump the one in unstable if and when we like | 19:02 |
KatolaZ | 19:03 < LeePen> KatolaZ: well only the merged Debian one | 19:02 |
KatolaZ | ^^^ what do you mean? | 19:02 |
golinux | I have it working on a VB mini.iso | 19:03 |
LeePen | [beowulf] slim-1.3.6-5.1 | 19:03 |
KatolaZ | is that the debian version? | 19:03 |
LeePen | Yes | 19:03 |
KatolaZ | (i.e., the version coming from debian?) | 19:04 |
LeePen | Yes | 19:04 |
KatolaZ | and I guess it is working with elogind, because the debian one works with systemd | 19:04 |
KatolaZ | (logind) | 19:04 |
KatolaZ | right? | 19:04 |
LeePen | Yes | 19:04 |
KatolaZ | ok, the whole story about consolekit is to allow a choice | 19:04 |
KatolaZ | before elogind (i.e., before ascii) we didn't have any | 19:04 |
KatolaZ | and consolekit was the only way | 19:04 |
LeePen | I like choice | 19:04 |
golinux | slim 1.3.6-5.1 | 19:05 |
KatolaZ | in ascii we allowed a choice between elogind and consolekit | 19:05 |
KatolaZ | now to continue that, we need consolekit2 in unstable | 19:05 |
LeePen | I think slim/ascii is consolekit only | 19:05 |
KatolaZ | yes | 19:05 |
KatolaZ | and also something else is consolekit only | 19:05 |
LeePen | Do we need 2 slim packages against consolekit and elogind? | 19:06 |
golinux | lightdm, I think | 19:06 |
KatolaZ | I guess it would make sense to keep consolekit 2 if we can | 19:06 |
KatolaZ | LeePen: I guess that would be nice | 19:06 |
KatolaZ | maybe we can leave the current package as it is | 19:06 |
KatolaZ | (as it works with elogind) | 19:06 |
KatolaZ | and have a slim-consolekit one? | 19:06 |
KatolaZ | but it's probably better to discuss this on the ML | 19:07 |
LeePen | Yes, I wondered about that. | 19:07 |
KatolaZ | as I am not the maintainer of consolekit or slim | 19:07 |
KatolaZ | so mine is just a somehow external take on the whole story | 19:07 |
golinux | hellekin was the slim maintainer | 19:07 |
KatolaZ | golinux: it was adopted by Centurion_Dan for ascii | 19:07 |
KatolaZ | IIRC | 19:07 |
golinux | OK | 19:08 |
LeePen | I haven't come across him/her | 19:08 |
KatolaZ | hellekin left some three years ago | 19:08 |
golinux | LeePen: Long story | 19:08 |
LeePen | Once upon a time.... ;) | 19:08 |
golinux | More like 2 | 19:08 |
KatolaZ | whetever | 19:09 |
KatolaZ | it was before we released jessie | 19:09 |
golinux | It seems like 3. ;) | 19:09 |
KatolaZ | slim was re-built for jessie by dan, if I am not wrong | 19:09 |
KatolaZ | and then updated for ascii | 19:09 |
KatolaZ | but anyway | 19:09 |
KatolaZ | this is of little interest for the current discussion | 19:09 |
KatolaZ | my point is, it would be good to have support for consolekit2 while it is around | 19:10 |
golinux | Very true. Sorry for the noise. I'm a bit nored atm. LOL! | 19:10 |
golinux | bored actually | 19:10 |
LeePen | KatolaZ: Sounds good to support both somehow. | 19:11 |
LeePen | Thanks | 19:11 |
KatolaZ | np | 19:12 |
KatolaZ | Centurion_Dan: you here by any chance? | 19:15 |
Centurion_Dan | yup | 19:52 |
Centurion_Dan | KatolaZ | 19:52 |
Centurion_Dan | ? | 19:53 |
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