libera/#devuan-dev/ Saturday, 2018-12-08

gnu_srsHi, can we please avoid the ugly package naming? elogind-239.1+20181112+gd4a3f291e395+nosubmodule-1+debian100:54
gnu_srsLeePen: ^^00:55
atsampsongnu_srs: you should fix it by doing an NMU, thus making the name elogind-239.1+20181112+gd4a3f291e395+nosubmodule-1+debian1+nmu1 ;-)01:00
kilobyteor elogind-239.3-1 ?01:07
gnu_srsatsampson: ;)01:15
golinuxsession management Xfce + beowulf03:27
golinuxOn opening FF got:03:27
golinuxSorry. We�re having trouble getting your pages back.03:27
golinuxWe are having trouble restoring your last browsing session. Select Restore Session to try again.03:27
golinux"restore session gets something back.  I can't remember if that's everything.03:28
Centurion_Dano/03:42
Centurion_DanLeePen, how did you get on with your elogind experiments replacing libsysttemd0 and libpam-systemd?03:43
golinuxIs anyone here running catfish on beowulf?06:50
golinuxWhen it asks to update the DB, there 9is an option to unlock. But much like the non-working Thunar action, nothing happens.06:53
LeePengnu_srs: That awful package name is the debian one that Ian Jackson created which got into Devuan by mistake. It has been replaced now.09:29
LeePengnu_srs: I have prepared 239.3-1 for Devuan. If you would like to review it before I push it to devuan-packages: https://git.devuan.org/LeePen/elogind/tree/devuan09:31
LeePenamesser: would you review too please?09:31
LeePenCenturion_Dan: I think it might work, but it is hard to know what it breaks. I haven't found anything, but a VM is quite limited usage.09:34
Centurion_Danyou haven't tried a full desktop in a vm?09:36
LeePenYes I have, but it doesn't get the usage of a daily driver09:36
Centurion_Danthe thing to try would probably be a gnome desktop (yuck)... as that's the most heavy user of systemd-logind and friends and thus the most likely one to break it..09:38
LeePenAlso, I wonder if this route helps us as it allows libsystemd to continue to be increasingly pervasive (although we replace it)09:38
LeePenI can try (not today). I suspect that might not work as it needs systemd --user which elogind doesn't provide.09:39
KatolaZ_https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2018-1978809:43
KatolaZ_I guess you saw that one already09:43
KatolaZ_it looks like the only program which checks root privileges using policykit is systemctl09:44
KatolaZ_but we should see whether this is really the case09:44
KatolaZ_i.e., if there is anything else that does that09:44
golinuxMore policy kit news.  My issues were because "policykit-1-gnome" was not installed.18:14
golinux"Notice that the policykit dameon (polkitd) runs at the system level and the policykit authentication agent at the user level. Both need o be running to serve up the authentication dialog."18:14
golinuxIt also needs to be enabled in Xfce Settings Manager > Session and Startup > Autostart Applications.18:16
golinuxThe thread in the Xfce forum is here: https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=50504#p5050418:17
golinuxNote that ToZ has an Ascii installation running.18:17
golinuxHe is thinking of upgrading but I don't know if that will merge /usr or not so don't know what to tell him.18:18
golinuxIs there a newer mini-iso than the one that I installed?18:19
Centurion_Dangolinux: it should work regardless of whether he has merged user or not.  The only thing he can't do is unmerge merged /usr19:31
Centurion_Danmeanwhile I'm trying to make our amd64 image be able to boot both grub efi in both 32 and 64bit mode.20:00
Centurion_Danthis is to handle those situations with intel baytrail systems which only support bootstrapping 32bit efi20:01
Centurion_Danbut have  a64 bit processor20:02
Centurion_Danthe issue I'm having is there seems to be no way for grub to tell itself if it's the 32bit or 64bit efi that's been booted so I can set the correct prefix path to the rest of the grub modules20:04
golinuxThanks, Centurion_Dan.  I'll add your comment to that thread.20:17
golinuxI think I discovered why policykit-1-gnome wasn't installed.  Looked in the installer logs and is under "recommends"22:40
golinuxNov 27 07:48:17 in-target: Recommended packages:22:40
golinuxNov 27 07:48:17 in-target:   gvfs packagekit rtkit libpam-systemd dbus-user-session xfce4-mixer synaptic22:40
golinuxNov 27 07:48:17 in-target:   policykit-1 libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0 policykit-1-gnome22:40
golinuxNov 27 07:48:17 in-target:   policykit-1-gnome | polkit-1-auth-agent udisks2 policykit-1 | menu22:40
golinuxNov 27 07:48:17 in-target:   | kde-runtime light-locker systemd-sysv | systemd-shim22:40
golinuxDon't know why it's in there twice,22:41
golinuxIt probably needs to be "depends".22:45

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