libera/#devuan-dev/ Thursday, 2018-11-15

drwhite I can't get updates any more. Is there anything wrong with the Devuan files?01:55
drwhiteI get the error....01:55
drwhiteE: Release file for http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/dists/ascii-security/InRelease is expired (invalid since 20min 3s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.01:55
golinuxdrwhite: Use deb.devuan.org02:22
golinuxAnd read the ascii release notes.02:22
Centurion_Danso consolekit has been removed from debian.20:31
gnu_srs2Regarding policykit-1: Maybe we should make two backends: -elogind and -systemd?20:35
gnu_srs2To make it usable with Debian20:36
gnu_srs2+Devuan20:36
Centurion_DanDebian will already have a working polkit for systemd that should already work with elogind20:37
Centurion_Dando we know for sure our policykit-1 is different from debians wrt elogind vs systemd?20:38
gnu_srs2Centurion_Dan: Debian will already have a working polkit for systemd that should already work with elogind: Are you sure, see the latest emails!20:40
gnu_srs2On debian-init-diversity and debian-devel20:41
Centurion_Danwrt consolekit - consolekit2 is a fork and continuation of consolekit can and should we package that instead?  I can try to spin a package for that.20:45
Centurion_Dangnu_srs2: can you provide links to the relevant emails?20:45
golinuxhttp://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/pipermail/debian-init-diversity/2018-November/date.html21:58
KatolaZgnu_srs2: I guess it's not needed22:04
KatolaZat least, we don't need to provide a -systemd backend for sure22:05
KatolaZfrom what I unerstood, it looks like the separate backends might not be necessary, if the proposed solution based on co-existing pam modules would eventually work22:06
KatolaZCenturion_Dan: consolekit was removed from Debian more than 2 years ago22:06
KatolaZand has been abandoned upstream22:06
Centurion_DanKatolaZ: So if we want console-kit then we need to package it ourselves.  Consolekit2 a continuation fork is still being maintained upstream with patches as new as 11 months ago.  It is a direct decendant of consolekit so probably hasn't changed that much.22:20
KatolaZCenturion_Dan: it's basically dead...22:21
Centurion_Danhttps://github.com/ConsoleKit2/ConsoleKit222:21
Centurion_DanIt22:21
Centurion_Danis probably going to be needed if we are going to have a kfreebsd port.22:21
Centurion_Danhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ConsoleKit22:28
Centurion_DanI22:32
Centurion_Danwill package ConsoleKit2 for experimental and see how that goes.22:33
gnu_srs2Centurion_Dan: What's wrong with continuing with consolekit?22:58
Centurion_Danconsolekit2 is a continuation of consolekit - but with an active upstream23:06
Centurion_Danthere are also lots of interesting issue on the CK2 github project indicating improvements and that there is active interest - including a Systemd free Fedora project...23:11
gnu_srs2What: A systemd-free Fedora project?, that's not even thinkable!23:50

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