golinux | Regarding this post in a discussion of non-free firmware being installed with user consent https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=12686#p12686 | 01:42 |
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golinux | I remember discussions about enabling non-free if needed in a "standard" (not expert) install. | 01:44 |
golinux | Was there a reason a question asking whether to enable non-free can't be included in the "standard" install? I can't remember. | 01:46 |
golinux | In any case the blurb on the website (written early on by hellekin) should probably be rewritten to reflect our current policy more clearly. | 01:47 |
golinux | Suggestions welcomed. | 01:47 |
Centurion_Dan | eudev -3.2.7 is in experimental... anybody running ceres should give it a whirl and let me know how it goes. | 02:54 |
Irrwahn | Centurion_Dan: Works for me, at least in a simple Ceres VM; had to allow aptitude to remove (lib)udev in order to get a clean install. | 10:37 |
KatolaZ | we need to have a matching udev dummy package, I guess | 10:43 |
KatolaZ | but the one already in unstable should be fine | 10:43 |
KatolaZ | (it is fine in a ceres VM, actually) | 10:43 |
Centurion_Dan | Only for upgrades... | 10:43 |
KatolaZ | yes | 10:43 |
KatolaZ | but still | 10:43 |
KatolaZ | we need to have it | 10:43 |
KatolaZ | otherwise upgrades will fail | 10:43 |
Centurion_Dan | isn't a provides enough?? | 10:44 |
KatolaZ | don't think so | 10:45 |
Centurion_Dan | Oh, I'd dropped the ceres version trying to git rid of that mismatched source package... | 10:45 |
KatolaZ | due to the epoch thing | 10:45 |
KatolaZ | uh>? | 10:45 |
Centurion_Dan | ah | 10:45 |
KatolaZ | the eudev version? | 10:45 |
KatolaZ | or udev? | 10:45 |
Centurion_Dan | eudev | 10:45 |
KatolaZ | oh | 10:45 |
KatolaZ | we need to put it back | 10:46 |
KatolaZ | or put eudev 3.2.7 | 10:46 |
KatolaZ | i'd just go with moving 3.2.7 to unstable | 10:46 |
Centurion_Dan | yeah lets go with that. | 10:46 |
KatolaZ | let's do it! (TM) | 10:46 |
Centurion_Dan | ;-D | 10:46 |
KatolaZ | just move it from dak | 10:46 |
KatolaZ | well, copy actually | 10:46 |
Centurion_Dan | what's the command? | 10:47 |
KatolaZ | dunno | 10:47 |
KatolaZ | I hoped they had one in the new dak | 10:47 |
KatolaZ | :D | 10:47 |
KatolaZ | there must be | 10:47 |
Irrwahn | Unrelated question: Anybody know what may cause a bunch of errors like the following when rsync'ing a mirror: | 10:48 |
Irrwahn | rsync: opendir "/home/vesta/devuan/devuan/dists/2.0/main/installer-i386/20180212+devuan1/images/netboot/gtk/debian-installer/i386/pxelinux.cfg" failed: Permission denied (13) | 10:48 |
KatolaZ | Irrwahn: is that from pkgmaster? | 10:49 |
Irrwahn | getting those since ~ 9:00 UTC | 10:49 |
Irrwahn | KatolaZ: I would guess so, it's when syncing our devuan.packet-gain.de mirror | 10:49 |
* Centurion_Dan ducks and runs for cover | 10:50 | |
KatolaZ | hold on | 10:50 |
Irrwahn | (It does so 7 and 37 minutes after the hour, and I get a mail if something barfs, like above message.) | 10:50 |
KatolaZ | oh ffs | 10:50 |
KatolaZ | I should remove 1.0 and 2.0 | 10:50 |
KatolaZ | and then re-create them maybe | 10:51 |
KatolaZ | hold on | 10:51 |
KatolaZ | holy shit | 10:51 |
Irrwahn | Uh-oh, sounds nasty?! | 10:51 |
KatolaZ | Irrwahn: try now please | 10:53 |
Irrwahn | hold on for min pls | 10:54 |
KatolaZ | ok | 10:54 |
Irrwahn | KatolaZ: a whole lotta files got removed, but I con't spot any actual error messages in rsync output. | 10:55 |
KatolaZ | ok | 10:55 |
Irrwahn | *can't | 10:55 |
KatolaZ | please check than 1.0 is a symlink to jessie | 10:55 |
KatolaZ | and 2.0 is a symlink to ascii | 10:55 |
KatolaZ | it should be all right | 10:55 |
KatolaZ | s.than.that | 10:56 |
Irrwahn | KatolaZ: Symlinks look correct. | 10:57 |
KatolaZ | ok | 10:58 |
KatolaZ | sorry Irrwahn | 10:58 |
KatolaZ | just a glitch on rsyncinc repos | 10:58 |
KatolaZ | we updated the dak version | 10:58 |
KatolaZ | and there was one minor bump | 10:58 |
KatolaZ | :) | 10:58 |
Irrwahn | Why sorry? Thanks for fixing it so quickly! :-) | 10:58 |
Irrwahn | Well, shift happens. ^.^ | 10:59 |
Centurion_Dan | KatolaZ: eudev 3.2.7-2 should be in unstable as soon as rsync happens ;-) | 11:03 |
KatolaZ | oki | 11:05 |
KatolaZ | Irrwahn: :) | 11:09 |
Irrwahn | Looks like the latest cron scheduled mirror rsync from pkgmaster ran clean as well, all good. :) | 11:10 |
Irrwahn | ( BTW, 'shift happens' was a rather obscure reference to http://dilbert.com/strip/1997-03-22 ) | 11:12 |
Irrwahn | eudev 3.2.7-2 is in ceres now, but it still conflicts with the transitional udev 1:3.2.5+devuan1 dummy package. I suppose the latter needs to be aligned WRT to version numbers? | 11:48 |
onefang | Now I got "could not make way for new symlink: devuan/dists/1.0" I guess I should delete and symlink it manually, as you mentioned above. | 11:48 |
Irrwahn | onefang: Interesting. What does your rsync incantation look like? | 11:49 |
Irrwahn | In my case the equivalent of "rsync -v -az --delete vesta@pkgmaster.devuan.org:~/devuan YOUR_MIRROR_DIRECTORY" worked w/o manual intervention. | 11:52 |
KatolaZ | working on it Irrwahn | 11:52 |
Irrwahn | KatolaZ: Great, thanks! :) | 11:52 |
onefang | rsync --chown mirrors:www-data -avX vesta@pkgmaster.devuan.org:~/devuan/ /srv/mirrors/files.devuan.org | 11:53 |
KatolaZ | Irrwahn: which package is conflicting? | 11:54 |
Irrwahn | onefang: You're missing --delete. | 11:54 |
Irrwahn | KatolaZ: eudev 3.2.7-2 with udev 1:3.2.5+devuan1, at least according to aptitude. | 11:54 |
onefang | Hmmm, I have --delete in the one that mirrors the isos, but left that out of the packages one, deliberately by the look of the spacing. I wonder why? | 11:55 |
Irrwahn | KatolaZ: IIRC those two should be allowed to coexist, the latter one can of course safely be removed after upgrade, being just a dummy transitional package. | 11:56 |
Irrwahn | onefang: Hum, that might lead to cruft accumulating, or issues like the one you did just run into. | 11:56 |
KatolaZ | Irrwahn: that's correct, it should conflict | 11:57 |
KatolaZ | give me a sec | 11:57 |
onefang | Ah, my docs say "I should probably add –delete to the package mirror as well." lol | 11:57 |
* onefang does so. | 11:57 | |
Irrwahn | onefang: Past you had it just right then. :D | 11:58 |
onefang | Now I wait half an hour, see how much disk space that frees up. B-) | 11:58 |
KatolaZ | Irrwahn: building now | 11:59 |
Irrwahn | KatolaZ: Great, I'll look at it later. :) | 12:00 |
onefang | Saved over 50 GB, and now my package mirror is only 16 GB. Does that sound right? | 12:42 |
onefang | Oh shit. It deleted the ISO mirror. Might be my bind mounts. | 12:43 |
Irrwahn | onefang: Ugh. Yeah, 16GB is only the package mirror. | 12:48 |
onefang | At least it deleted excess stuff from the package mirror, so not a complete waste. I'm manually rsyncing the ISOs now. | 12:50 |
onefang | And removed the --delete again, until I get a chance to rethink that bit. | 12:51 |
Irrwahn | onefang: I wonder if the rsync --exclude option could help in your case. Excluded paths are not touched in the destination dir by --delete, unless you explicitly specify --delete-excluded as well. | 12:55 |
onefang | I was thinking that. | 12:57 |
KatolaZ | onefang: just include the --delete | 12:57 |
KatolaZ | there is no reason to keep in your repo stuff that is not in pkgmaster | 12:57 |
onefang | Except that my ISO mirror is in the same base directory. | 12:58 |
onefang | Keeps things neater at my end, and the --exclude option could do the trick. | 13:00 |
onefang | I think --delete --exclude /devuan-cd/ should do the trick. | 13:17 |
Irrwahn | KatolaZ: Weird, I see udev_3.2.7+devuan1 on pkgmaster, but it won't show up in my VM after apt-get update - still showing 3.2.5. Something stuck, or PEBKAC on my side? | 13:19 |
KatolaZ | there is a glitch in dak | 13:19 |
KatolaZ | I'll have a look later | 13:19 |
Irrwahn | Ah, thanks! | 13:20 |
onefang | Or not. | 13:39 |
onefang | Still a 10 GB saving. | 14:15 |
Irrwahn | KatolaZ: Looks like your version bump did the trick: the udev transitional package can now again coexist with eudev. | 14:26 |
KatolaZ | yea but there is still a problem with udebs | 14:28 |
onefang | OK, think that's sorted now. Hope I didn't screw anything else up. | 14:39 |
LeePen | amesser: are you here? | 21:24 |
LeePen | amesse: no worries, catch you later | 21:41 |
Centurion_Dan | rrq: just tested your Devuan Ascii AWS AMI: Looks pretty good - a bit fat, but that's standard install for you. Thank you, I'll be putting it into production probably today for a client ;-) | 22:12 |
rrq | great. I need to update my doc of the process. I also started with a full headless path from using debian-installer, but my infinite pool of spare time has dried up :( | 22:40 |
rrq | didn't I mean debootstrap... | 22:45 |
golinux | rrq: Too many holidays can do that. :) | 23:00 |
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