| golinux | rrq: ping | 02:57 |
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| golinux | This just posted on #devuan: https://lincolnloop.com/blog/saying-goodbye-botbotme/ | 02:57 |
| golinux | botbot.me is going down but . . . | 02:58 |
| golinux | "If you are a channel operator and would like to download a copy of the logs for your channel, please send a PM to ipmb on Freenode for more details." | 02:58 |
| golinux | I don't know how complete our logs are on our znc. Seems some of the early ones were missing. Anyway, I think this be more complete. | 03:00 |
| golinux | But since you aren't a channel op . . . . | 03:00 |
| golinux | jaromil: Could you please make the above request to get the complete #devuan logs from botbot before they disappear | 03:01 |
| golinux | DocScrutinizer05: ^^^ You might want to do that for yours logs also. | 03:01 |
| rrq | the znc server has the #devuan logs since 2015-02-23 | 05:26 |
| rrq | crappy interface to view them of course | 05:26 |
| rrq | you can search "jonitrythall" to warp to the beginning if you like | 05:28 |
| golinux | Centurion_Dan: I see you're working on policykit. YEA! | 08:09 |
| gnu_srs | golinux: What's wrong with policykit? | 08:39 |
| golinux | Systemd deps haven't been removed in beowulf/ceres | 08:44 |
| golinux | Those who have upgraded have to get the one from ascii. | 08:45 |
| golinux | At least that's what I think the issue is. | 08:45 |
| golinux | gnu_srs | 08:45 |
| golinux | ^^^ | 08:45 |
| * golinux still doesn't understand the *kit hairball | 08:46 | |
| gnu_srs | golinux: OK! | 08:50 |
| gnu_srs | There is also some work to be done for eudev :D | 08:51 |
| golinux | Quite a few people have tried to upgrade | 08:52 |
| golinux | and when they get stuck they come to the forum or irc channels. | 08:53 |
| golinux | Devuan meet Wednesday Sept. 12 @20:30 UTC. | 09:31 |
| golinux | Pad is here: https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/1/edit/lSWG6jS9TqtJdk3iUoHzsA/Fmgq2gMR+OCUA8aEQ1TY59iG/ | 09:31 |
| golinux | Hopefully we'll be finalizing dates and starting to plan the d1conf. | 09:33 |
| golinux | I really tired so would appreciate if someone else could post this info to the devuan-dev list. I'm off to bed . . . | 09:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | golinux: thanks for the info. I'd prefer to get a link to the raw data file to download it somewhere, or even get the whole thing as tarball per email. If somebody else communicates with those guys anyway to get it, it seems lss effort when they simply share it with me | 10:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s*lss*less* | 10:36 |
| fsmithred | ping Centurion_Dan and gnu_srs - wishlist for policykit-1 is the ability to install xfce4-session without policykit-1. A change in deps between jessie and ascii makes it no longer possible. See discussion - https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=11341#p11341 | 16:02 |
| KatolaZ | fsmithred: that might be a wishlist for xfce4-session... | 16:04 |
| KatolaZ | we should change the dep from Depends: to Recommends: | 16:05 |
| KatolaZ | but we should do all this stuff for unstable now, not for beowulf | 16:05 |
| fsmithred | yeah, I suggested that for (I have to check the exact packagte name) | 16:06 |
| KatolaZ | and then maybe backport the changes to ascii, if needed | 16:06 |
| fsmithred | yeah, it can percolate down from unstable | 16:06 |
| KatolaZ | yep | 16:06 |
| fsmithred | anyway, the change is in whichever libpolkit package xfce4-session needs | 16:08 |
| fsmithred | in ascii, it pulls in the libpolkit-backend/gobject packages | 16:08 |
| fsmithred | and those force policykit-1 to be installed | 16:08 |
| fsmithred | since we're already working on that package, that might be the easiest place to change it | 16:09 |
| fsmithred | xfce4-session depends on libpolkit-gobject-1-0 | 16:11 |
| fsmithred | I tried building it with that as a recommends, but I couldn't get it to work. | 16:11 |
| KatolaZ | oh no | 16:20 |
| KatolaZ | you can't remove the dep in the gobject/agent packages, I guess | 16:20 |
| KatolaZ | you can make xfce4-session Recommends: libpolkig-gobject/agent | 16:20 |
| KatolaZ | but we should be somehow careful with that | 16:20 |
| KatolaZ | the main issue is what people "expect" from a package | 16:21 |
| fsmithred | I don't know if libpolkit-gobject-1-0 actually does anything for xfce4-session. We'd need to know that. | 16:21 |
| KatolaZ | if I install xfce4-session, I would like session management to work ootb | 16:21 |
| fsmithred | there are some things that work in xfce4 if you have xfce4-session installed (without policykit-1) that don't work without xfce4-session | 16:23 |
| fsmithred | I don't remember exactly what, but a bunch of stuff was missing without it. | 16:24 |
| KatolaZ | ok | 16:24 |
| fsmithred | and there's some code in /usr/bin/startxfce4 for working without a display manager | 16:25 |
| KatolaZ | I think we could easily put a modified package in experimental | 16:27 |
| KatolaZ | to be tried out | 16:27 |
| fsmithred | yeah | 16:27 |
| fsmithred | I know someone who will test it | 16:28 |
| golinux | Report on d1g that this mirror is failing. Connection failed [IP: 37.220.36.58 80] | 18:18 |
| golinux | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=11765#p11765 | 18:19 |
| golinux | KatolaZ: ^^^ | 18:19 |
| KatolaZ | golinux: the mirror has been checked three times today | 18:27 |
| KatolaZ | and it currently works | 18:27 |
| golinux | Well then whats going on with that? | 18:29 |
| KatolaZ | dunno | 18:29 |
| KatolaZ | maybe a temporary glitch | 18:29 |
| KatolaZ | or user-dependente connection ussyes | 18:30 |
| KatolaZ | ~issues | 18:30 |
| KatolaZ | 37.220.36.58.... DNS-RR: [OK] Integrity: [OK] Protocol: [OK] URL-sanity: [OK] Updated: 20180912-16:18:47 | 18:31 |
| KatolaZ | 37.220.36.58.... DNS-RR: [OK] Integrity: [OK] Protocol: [OK] URL-sanity: [OK] Updated: 20180912-14:16:13 | 18:31 |
| KatolaZ | 37.220.36.58.... DNS-RR: [OK] Integrity: [OK] Protocol: [OK] URL-sanity: [OK] Updated: 20180912-05:06:06 | 18:31 |
| KatolaZ | these are the last three checks | 18:32 |
| KatolaZ | all successful | 18:32 |
| KatolaZ | forget the user that says that it can't reach it by using the IP address directly | 18:32 |
| KatolaZ | they should ensure to send a "Host: deb.devuan.org" header | 18:32 |
| golinux | KatolaZ: Did you look at that post? He's using deb.devuan.org | 18:34 |
| KatolaZ | golinux: did you see my answer above? | 18:36 |
| golinux | Yeah. Just waking up. | 18:36 |
| KatolaZ | one of the people who answered said that he got a 403 when trying to connectt to http://IP | 18:36 |
| KatolaZ | with their browser | 18:37 |
| KatolaZ | that is *irrelevant(* | 18:37 |
| KatolaZ | since they have to send a valid "Host: deb.devuan.org" header | 18:37 |
| onefang | 37.220.36.58 is me. And what KatolaZ says, I run several web sites on several domain names, so http://37.220.36.58/merged is gonna fail, the web server doesn't know that's the Devuan mirror they want, coz they are not using the domain. | 19:18 |
| KatolaZ | onefang: that is absolutely fine | 19:19 |
| KatolaZ | it's actually how the DNS RR works | 19:19 |
| onefang | I know. | 19:19 |
| KatolaZ | and you are not the only mirror like that | 19:19 |
| KatolaZ | (actually, all our mirrors are like that) | 19:19 |
| onefang | I know that to. | 19:19 |
| onefang | Your tests show there's nothing wrong with my mirror, and the test I did just now agrees. | 19:20 |
| atsampson | Maybe the more interesting question is why apt didn't just fall back to one of the other servers in the round-robin if connecting to that one failed... | 19:36 |
| atsampson | It looks like one of the two places that can produce the "Connection failed" message in basehttp doesn't call RotateDNS() | 19:37 |
| atsampson | jaromil: looking at algosov.org (linked from the pad) - the server isn't including the LE intermediate cert in the chain, so Firefox doesn't like it... | 21:04 |
| golinux | KatolaZ: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=11767#p11767 | 21:19 |
| golinux | Meet starts in 25 min. | 22:14 |
| jaromil | ahoy | 22:17 |
| KatolaZ | hey | 22:18 |
| KatolaZ | will try to join ASAP | 22:18 |
| KatolaZ | golinux: it's a user problem | 22:18 |
| KatolaZ | we haven't had any problem signalled by any other ASCII user | 22:18 |
| jaromil | katolaz eta? I don't have much time, 1h | 22:18 |
| KatolaZ | and they are all using deb.devuan.org | 22:18 |
| KatolaZ | jaromil: hopefully 20:45 UTC | 22:19 |
| KatolaZ | (15 minutes late) | 22:19 |
| KatolaZ | you just start | 22:19 |
| jaromil | we can also start with academic 15m delay | 22:19 |
| jaromil | atsampson: ack thanks | 22:20 |
| jaromil | why is algosov linked on the pad :^D | 22:20 |
| golinux | Because I think it's important | 22:20 |
| blinkdog | Anybody have a link to the meeting pad? :-) | 22:21 |
| golinux | https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/1/edit/lSWG6jS9TqtJdk3iUoHzsA/Fmgq2gMR+OCUA8aEQ1TY59iG/ | 22:22 |
| golinux | https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/1/edit/i2YkTJMj3hCYFN6YTXcg1g/FjQe32nO54OXvd7qZ8vUz3lf/ | 22:22 |
| golinux | One for the conf one for the meet | 22:22 |
| KatolaZ | golinux: I have replied to the forum | 22:24 |
| golinux | Thank you! | 22:26 |
| golinux | Ding, ding ding | 22:34 |
| KatolaZ | coming | 22:51 |
| onefang | And then my home network went out. lol | 23:09 |
| KatolaZ | onefang: problems with your mirror? | 23:10 |
| onefang | My home network went down, not my servers network, while I was looking at my mirror to see if there was any problem with it. | 23:13 |
| onefang | And it was 3:30 AM, so I went to bed. All looks good now, but I gotta get ready to go work now. | 23:15 |
| KatolaZ | oki | 23:19 |
| onefang | It's likely that reported problem was a glitch at the users end, as you mentioned before KatolaZ. Otherwise, if there's an actual problem on my server, that'll have to wait for after I get home this afternoon. | 23:47 |
| KatolaZ | nothing I can detect onefang | 23:51 |
| onefang | Cool then. | 23:54 |
| onefang | I was almost finished with my ASCII upgrade on my server, I think I still had half the monitoring to install. But the owners of my home want to knock it down and build a luxury home for themselves, so I had to move quick. Then I had jury duty. I'm only now catching up on work and stuff. | 23:56 |
| onefang | My old home had fibre to the bedroom, this new place has ADSL2+ shared over WiFi with six other people. So it sucks a bit. lol | 23:57 |
| onefang | My server is on the other side of the planet though, so that's not affected by this move. | 23:59 |
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