| golinux | parazyd: KatolaZ: A report of inconsistency between debian and devuan presentation of apt-cache and apt-search here: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2231 | 16:17 |
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| KatolaZ | golinux: this is known | 16:18 |
| golinux | I thought we fixed that. | 16:18 |
| KatolaZ | I thought we did, indeed | 16:19 |
| golinux | Could you possibly drop an authoritative answer there or tell me what to say? | 16:19 |
| golinux | It's not finding a related word search | 16:20 |
| KatolaZ | amesser: o/ | 19:29 |
| golinux | KatolaZ; Regarding the question above. He's using pkgmaster to try to migrate debian to devuan jessie. | 19:39 |
| golinux | Is the apt-cache/search not working on jessie? | 19:40 |
| KatolaZ | golinux: Contents are available for all the releases from pkgmaster and deb.devuan.org | 19:44 |
| golinux | OK. | 19:44 |
| golinux | That's what I thought. | 19:44 |
| golinux | I just suggested he come over to #devuan | 19:44 |
| amesser | hi KatolaZ | 19:54 |
| KatolaZ | amesser: re your question: the first step is to implement a proper experimental/unstable/testing/stable pipeline | 19:56 |
| KatolaZ | then there is the post-ascii bikeshed pad in the topic ;) | 19:57 |
| KatolaZ | https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/1/edit/YakleTpFfQ9KHXt+ggqgSQ/BJYL0QHRoy9LmLEObTTKmzAH/ | 19:57 |
| amesser | ok, thanks for info | 19:58 |
| amesser | if there is something i can do or help, just shout (or better drop me an email) I think i'll have some spare time again since critical phase in garden is over now and i have lowered my weekly working hours with my employer | 20:00 |
| KatolaZ | amesser: if you think there is something you can help with, just shout ;) | 20:02 |
| amesser | :-D | 20:05 |
| KatolaZ | no really | 20:05 |
| amesser | I heard you're working on a libsystems replacement? | 20:06 |
| amesser | libsystemd i meant | 20:07 |
| KatolaZ | yep | 20:08 |
| KatolaZ | started working on that | 20:08 |
| KatolaZ | had to slow down in the last few weeks | 20:08 |
| KatolaZ | due to real work claiming some of my time :) | 20:09 |
| KatolaZ | but there might be a repo up on git.devuan.org soon | 20:09 |
| KatolaZ | so that we can share the efforts and ideas | 20:09 |
| amesser | Ah, fine. | 20:09 |
| amesser | Will it be a pure dummy implementation or somehow try to emulate original function? | 20:10 |
| KatolaZ | I would probably start with a dummy implementation | 20:12 |
| KatolaZ | the main problem is that the actual "action" of most function consist of a change of state in systemd | 20:12 |
| KatolaZ | which is just visible by systemd | 20:12 |
| KatolaZ | or by other systemd-related calls | 20:12 |
| KatolaZ | so any "replacement" should put a systemd-compatible daemon there | 20:13 |
| KatolaZ | and I don't know if that is useful/possible/practical | 20:13 |
| amesser | Maybe, or fan out everything to customizeable shell scripts :-) | 20:13 |
| KatolaZ | still, the matter is state change | 20:13 |
| KatolaZ | yes, we could have a series of callbacks | 20:14 |
| KatolaZ | in the form of shell scripts | 20:14 |
| KatolaZ | which are normally void | 20:14 |
| KatolaZ | and can be customised by the user | 20:14 |
| KatolaZ | if they like | 20:14 |
| amesser | agree | 20:17 |
| amesser | KatolaZ: will the "proper" packaging pipeline base on current package git repositories or need we start from scratch? | 20:40 |
| KatolaZ | amesser: will be based on the same git repos | 20:42 |
| KatolaZ | only, we will only push to unstable | 20:42 |
| KatolaZ | then the packages will percolate to testing | 20:42 |
| KatolaZ | any update will happen in unstable | 20:42 |
| KatolaZ | any new package will be in experimental | 20:42 |
| amesser | with 'percolate' you mean by manual action or by some automatic process in background? | 20:43 |
| KatolaZ | will be manual initially | 20:45 |
| KatolaZ | but the idea is to have it automatic | 20:45 |
| KatolaZ | if we have enough users in ceres | 20:45 |
| amesser | ah ok | 20:46 |
| amesser | i think we need then some kind of documentation for that - or i'll ask same questions over and over again :-) | 20:47 |
| KatolaZ | amesser: any ideas or proposals, please use the pad | 20:47 |
| amesser | the process will be similar to debian's process then, right? | 20:47 |
| KatolaZ | yep. more or less | 20:52 |
| amesser | I'm also looking forward receiving my libre-m mobile phone devkit in late august. I'm going to port devuan for this | 21:26 |
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