KatolaZ | fsmithred: you here by any chance? | 23:06 |
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fsmithred | yes | 23:06 |
fsmithred | hi | 23:06 |
fsmithred | KatolaZ, what's up? | 23:06 |
KatolaZ | regarding the non-free firmwares | 23:07 |
KatolaZ | is there anything missing in netinst then? | 23:07 |
KatolaZ | I couldn't follow the thread on DNG | 23:07 |
KatolaZ | very bad quoting and don't understand who said what | 23:07 |
fsmithred | yeah, breaking up posts into paragraphs would be a good skill for some to learn | 23:08 |
fsmithred | problem is this... | 23:08 |
fsmithred | the firmware package doesn't contain the firmware | 23:08 |
fsmithred | it contains an installer that pulls the firmware down from network | 23:08 |
KatolaZ | yep | 23:09 |
KatolaZ | I know | 23:09 |
KatolaZ | that's what I tried to explain to Dan Pridgeon | 23:09 |
fsmithred | so that happens when we build the live isos | 23:09 |
KatolaZ | but netinst can't | 23:09 |
fsmithred | unless you have a wire | 23:09 |
KatolaZ | oh sure | 23:09 |
fsmithred | I sent him the file he needs | 23:09 |
fsmithred | but that's not a universal solution | 23:09 |
KatolaZ | which can be pulled off the windows drivers, BTW | 23:09 |
KatolaZ | I guess b43-fwcutter pulls down the wn drivers | 23:10 |
KatolaZ | at least it did so back in the days | 23:10 |
KatolaZ | I had one of those chipsets in 2009-2010 | 23:10 |
fsmithred | bunch of .fw files get downloaded | 23:10 |
KatolaZ | I guess there is no way around that | 23:11 |
fsmithred | only solution I can think of would be to include all those .fw files in the netinstall | 23:11 |
KatolaZ | we can't distribute those files | 23:11 |
fsmithred | and even then, the user would have to copy them to usb | 23:11 |
KatolaZ | that's why they are downloaded by b43-fwcutter | 23:11 |
KatolaZ | nope | 23:11 |
KatolaZ | I am pretty sure we can't distribute them | 23:11 |
fsmithred | well, they're in the desktop-live | 23:12 |
KatolaZ | mmmhhh | 23:12 |
fsmithred | I looked at the licenses for the packages, and I didn't see anything that says we can't distribute them | 23:13 |
fsmithred | and does say we can distribute as long as some conditions are met | 23:13 |
KatolaZ | fsmithred: they are not even in non-free.... | 23:13 |
fsmithred | yeah, just the packages | 23:13 |
KatolaZ | it's like the flashplugin I guess | 23:14 |
KatolaZ | end-users can download it for free | 23:14 |
fsmithred | I guess | 23:14 |
KatolaZ | but it cannot be distributed | 23:14 |
KatolaZ | we should be very careful with this stuff | 23:14 |
fsmithred | where can we find out? | 23:14 |
fsmithred | I can remove those packages from the list | 23:14 |
fsmithred | that's easy | 23:15 |
KatolaZ | well, if the stuff is not in non-free, then we are pretty sure there is some restriction to distribution | 23:15 |
fsmithred | I thought stuff just had to not be fully open-source to get into non-free | 23:16 |
KatolaZ | those are not even in non-free :D | 23:16 |
fsmithred | editing config... | 23:17 |
KatolaZ | I should do the same I guess | 23:17 |
KatolaZ | I think I used the same list in minimal-live | 23:17 |
KatolaZ | which files should I look for? | 23:18 |
KatolaZ | to check if they got installed in minimal-live? | 23:18 |
fsmithred | b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer and -legacy-installer | 23:18 |
fsmithred | I'll check bnx2 and 2x to see if they pull anything from net. I can install in a refracta iso. | 23:18 |
KatolaZ | oki | 23:19 |
fsmithred | couple minutes | 23:19 |
fsmithred | bnx2, bnx2x and brcm80211 all install without network | 23:22 |
fsmithred | I'm checking the others, too. | 23:29 |
fsmithred | KatolaZ, I don't see any others that pull anything from the net | 23:40 |
KatolaZ | great | 23:51 |
KatolaZ | so it's just b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer? | 23:51 |
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